has anyone considered putting air into the bottle instead of NOS?
sounds like it would be a cheaper solution, i wonder if that would do anything hp wise and would it be more reliable then NOS?

 

your really not helping yourself at all.. nitrous is N20.

pure oxygen is what helps you the most.. the nitrogen is there to control the burn process.

If you inject air, it's just air.. there's no concentration.. it's like using a beer bong to pound some jack daniels, then switching back to beer.... the beer ain't gonna do ****...

 

yea but shouldnt it be like FI, since you will be creating some sort of a presure

 

uh.. no.. your not creating pressure and your not increaseing the amoutn of oxygen in the system... your just adding to the amount of money you've wasted.

 

maybe i'll add it to the e-ram and run 9's

 

i believe that CO2 is an option

 

it wont work . one of my bottles alst week wasnt kicking for me for some reason . i had the temp uop and just want givving any power.

well i took the bottle out and it was a full bottle of compressed air
therefore no , just oxygen wont do anything .you will need the nitrogen i guess to combust at that higher rate
i could be totally off with my expanation , but i have the right idea. and proved my theory.

 

Do you know how much air an engine needs to run? When you do some CFM calculations you will realize that you may be able to pressurize the system for a few seconds with compressed air the size of a NOS bottle.

Pure oxygen will melt your engine.

I have never heard of CO2 in the bottle though. Any information on that?

 

Correction to my last post. The nos lines could not send enough CFM to even pressurize the intake, so you will have to get over that hurdle also.

 

ive hear dof c02 shooting on an intercooler to cool the cooler and densen the charge to the intake mainfold for turbo set ups. i think bergenholts was doing that a few years ago , we talked to him at etown and he showed us that

 

If there was any way to keep the compression in the intake manifold, yes it *could* make more power. The reason it didn't is because you were spraying air in, but weren't creating any pressure in the intake.

The nitrogen is not combustible, and yes, oxygen will burn....verrrryyyyy hot.

 

here is the cooler for the intercooler.


[Modified by bryan305, 12:45 PM 8/7/2002]

 

Heh heh... that whole 'cooling the I/C' with compressed CO2 (or even nitrous if you're bling) has been around for MANY years... it prolly started when people sprayed the I/C with nitrous and found that it kinda froze the fins... it does create power.

But as said earlier, just shooting air in won't do crap, you would need to find a way to get the air pressurized into the I/M and a way to keep it that way. (similar to a turbo) You would need some way to make the intake a variable closed loop... similar to a turbo or S/C If you could do that... it WILL make power... prolly even more efficiently than nitrous...that is if you could make it hold a contant pressure thruout the rpm band

X2

 

Kinda in the same vein...
Does nitrous provide more power to people at high altitudes?
The whole reason it works is because it has a higher oxygen content than the surrounding atmosphere right? So if it chops .5 seconds off some guys ET in L.A., it should chop off more than that for some guy in Colorado? Just curious...

 

That sounds logical... but maybe not... n20 has a consistent quantity of oxygen per psi, so that shouldn't really lose any power due to atmospheric or barometric conditions. As opposed to an FI car... that pushes a set psi, but the air quality changes.

 

Nitrous is not flammable unless mixed with gasoline which makes the mixture extremely flammable. The big punch comes from the oxide part of the equation. When the oxide enter the combustion chamber and it is introduced to heat, it splits into multiple molecules of oxygen. More oxygen means more fuel. Its all just a big chemical reaction. Pumping air into the intake stream is not going to compress it. In order to make power from pumping air, it must be compressed (like a turbo or sc). You cannot get the combustion chamber above atmospheric pressure with air rushing out of a bottle.


[Modified by supercompact, 1:07 AM 8/8/2002]

 

Mixing nitrous with gasoline doesn't make it flammable...

In the combustion process, it is forced to burn, which then seperates the molecules into Nitrogen and Oxygen... The 02 burns... nitrogen is a byproduct of the reaction.