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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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it's been puzzling me for the longest time possible, believe me. why are there 2 thermosensors on my 1990 civic 4-door dx?

you see, i have this problem : i think that my thermostat is opening too early (i see my temp gauge 1/4 of the gauge most of the time). but my rad fan doesn't turn on until about half of the gauge. so i'm planning to change the thermostat with an OEM one (my brother-in-law said he changed it to an aftermarket and colder thermostat when he changed it before).

so that i won't again have the same problem (rad fan turns on late and not turning off until you shut the engine off), i'm also replacing teh thermoswitch (thermosensors). i'm confused because i don't know which thermoswitch should i replace

anyone? thanks
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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There are two thermoswitches? Mine only has 1 by the thermostat, and then a coolant temperature sensor, that's it.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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you have 3...kinda.

1-wire under dizzy= for gauge
2-wire under dizzy= for ECU (aka: ECT, engine coolant temperature sensor)
2-wire on back of block=fan switch
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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according to the online honda parts, #23 and 24 are the thermosensors and #22 is the temp sending unit?

if the rad fan is turning on late (or is it the thermostat opening way too early), what parts should i replace? i'm so fed up already of my rad fan not turning off once it turns on (unless you shut the engine off). it's so noisy



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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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23 controlls the fan.
22 is for the cluster.
24 is for the ECU.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HTautodc
according to the online honda parts, #23 and 24 are the thermosensors and #22 is the temp sending unit?

if the rad fan is turning on late (or is it the thermostat opening way too early), what parts should i replace? i'm so fed up already of my rad fan not turning off once it turns on (unless you shut the engine off). it's so noisy



does anyone know what the connector for #23 look like?
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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I'll keep looking for a pic, but if you are working on it now this might get you through -

It's an ugly big rubber boot. The actual connector leads can slide in and out from the boot. It makes no difference which pole on the switch you hook the connector leads to - it's just a switch and turns on and off.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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I'll keep looking for a pic, but if you are working on it now this might get you through -

It's an ugly big rubber boot. The actual connector leads can slide in and out from the boot. It makes no difference which pole on the switch you hook the connector leads to - it's just a switch and turns on and off.

ok so heres the thing. i have a d15z1 block.

does it only have # 21?

cuz if it has both im ****en blind
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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ok so heres the thing. i have a d15z1 block.

does it only have # 21?

cuz if it has both im ****en blind
Check up on the thermostat housing for that engine
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Default Re: thermosensors : why oh why?

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Check up on the thermostat housing for that engine

thats were the rad fan input is?
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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yeah, shoulda mentioned the swap
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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so like....

i still cant find that input
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Default Re: thermosensors : why oh why?

4drEF, what do you think is wrong in my car? once the rad fan turns on, it doesn't turn off unless i shut the engine off thanks
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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make sure the thermostat is installed with he air bleed pin at the top.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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4drEF, what do you think is wrong in my car? once the rad fan turns on, it doesn't turn off unless i shut the engine off thanks
Is it cooling down properly or is the fan actually on for a reason?

Only things that come to mind are the fan switch or a sticky relay.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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so # 23 on the d15z1 should be under the thermostat housing for my engine? cuz i had to figg another fan cuz the rad fan never came on=/
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Default Re: thermosensors : why oh why?

thanks, man. i think i'll have to flush my cooling system first just to be sure
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