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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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will i know this is kind of a broad question but what header is best for a stock b16. rmf narrow header or the toda. i heard goods about both. i havent seen any dyno with the rmf header on a stock b16.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Why are you dumping mega buxx on a stock B16 to only have it make like 150WHP?
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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will i guess this is what i have thats it. also my parts i am buying or want to will also fit on other motor if you would like to know.LOL
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

I understand where your at with your motor, imo you should just go get you a nice dc sports header save the extra cash and get you a tried and true part. just look around til you find the right one for your motor at the right price
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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i heard much about the DC. i want something that i can get that is the best so i wont need to change it ever again. im no rich kid. and for my motor i'm not looking into opening it up. i just want bolt on's maybe some ctr or itr cams.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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a Megan Racing header would do just fine... no need IMO to spend twice the price on a DC Sports header.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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is the megan or dc really better then the stock b16 mani? when i changed my gasket on my jdm b16 the runners looked pretty big and free flowing. any one have dyno charts?
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:57 AM
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The edelbrock header is really solid, plus you can change out just the B-pipe to go into the "race" configuration...
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 04:58 AM
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hytech triy 10-12whp proven.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:00 AM
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SMSP hands down. Hytech is good too.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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hytech made for 1.8 liter??
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

Originally Posted by ChameleonDesignz
hytech triy 10-12whp proven.
Impossible numbers.

On a N/A engine the one modification that you will gain the most WHP is a light weight crank pulley, which will get you anywhere 5-8whp.

For a good header for a good budget I would pick the DC Sport 4-1 stainless steel header.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

the toda would be your best bet for a b16. spoolin sells a toda replica header that is ceramic coated for a good price heres the link https://honda-tech.com/forums/performance-45/spfab-t%2Ada-b-series-spfab-tri-y-header-%2A%2A-ceramic-coated%2A%2A-stock-%2A%2A%2A-2364945/ if your interested
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

Originally Posted by SFBPI504
the toda would be your best bet for a b16. spoolin sells a toda replica header that is ceramic coated for a good price heres the link https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2364945 if your interested
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

Headers like the ones you suggested are designed for built motors so you won't be making nearly as much power for the money as others
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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spoolin toda replica is best along with rmf narrow for 1.6L motors, and you won't ever need to upgrade from there, and with added mods it will only increase power output. I currently own a rmf narrow replica got it for dirt cheap and its real nice, just need a slim fan. Find on ebay for like 30-40 shiped. Toda replica has better ground clearance I belive, both would be best if you want a good replica header, otherwise smsp if you got over $450 to spend.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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Spoolin Toda replica imo.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

On a N/A engine the one modification that you will gain the most WHP is a light weight crank pulley, which will get you anywhere 5-8whp.


wow really? if thats true thats my next mission.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

Originally Posted by SFBPI504
the toda would be your best bet for a b16. spoolin sells a toda replica header that is ceramic coated for a good price heres the link https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2364945 if your interested

yea i saw that link the other day. i wanted to get it but i also saw the narrow header which it look killer as hell so i want to know the differences. also the rmf is cheaper than the toda. will im just waiting for the dynos charts i guess.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

Originally Posted by lee0149
yea i saw that link the other day. i wanted to get it but i also saw the narrow header which it look killer as hell so i want to know the differences. also the rmf is cheaper than the toda. will im just waiting for the dynos charts i guess.
That was my two choices also but i decided on the toda replica since it was ceramic coated and the research i did the toda seemed to be the best choice for my b16. if you want pm project dc2 he might still be having a sell on the header because i got mine for less than whats posted on the link
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

Originally Posted by ChameleonDesignz
hytech triy 10-12whp proven.
FAIL.




Just get the $50 generic one. They work great.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SFBPI504
That was my two choices also but i decided on the toda replica since it was ceramic coated and the research i did the toda seemed to be the best choice for my b16. if you want pm project dc2 he might still be having a sell on the header because i got mine for less than whats posted on the link


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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: best stock b16 header?

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Impossible numbers.

On a N/A engine the one modification that you will gain the most WHP is a light weight crank pulley, which will get you anywhere 5-8whp.

For a good header for a good budget I would pick the DC Sport 4-1 stainless steel header.
Originally Posted by lee0149
On a N/A engine the one modification that you will gain the most WHP is a light weight crank pulley, which will get you anywhere 5-8whp.


wow really? if thats true thats my next mission.
Yep its true. The light weight crank pulley is the most overlooked/unknown modification to the N/A engine, and surprisingly its the only modification thats gains the most WHP.

***I recommend putting a light weight crank pulley & a light weight fly wheel on at the same time.

**A lot of people on here say that light weight carnk pulley/fly wheel will damage and ruin any unbalanced engine, I don't think so. I think they put only one or the other on, so over time with a light weight crank pulley rotating with a heavy stock fly wheel over time I guess it can ruin your engine, I don't know never happened to me.

*I now have a B16a swap I purchased from hmotorsonline.com and have put about 100k on the engine/tranny with a light weight crank pulley and fly wheel that I put on the day I got the swap. So after 100k miles I have no problem.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Ive had a OBX steel headers on a b16 3 years ago got it for $70, i loved it. stay away from ceramic.
another thing dont put too much $$$ on a b16 . its mighty but your better off trying to stay leveled with the competition . go with b18 atleast or K-Series if your ballin much.
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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im not balling anymore. got laid off for 5 months now. and i bought my 99 civic si for 7000. so im just sticking with that. its not nesseary to swap it. it got 75,000 miles on it when i got it.
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