Type R Swap or K series swap
ive been wondering witch swap people like better,,and does any1 know how much each one costs installed? i have an automatic rite now so its gunna be a complete change over please let me know
its gonna cost alot..well way more for the k-swap. but its up to you really..type r motors are already 4500. you have to spend alot of money on the k-swap to make it fit and run and alotta time. but k-swap sounds good for winter project hah cuz you got all those months
to be honest the k swap and a type r swap are close in price. only thing that is really different is the mounts for the k, and if you want k pro ( adds 900 to the swap) or you can run a dc5 type r ecu. on k20a.org ppl sell complete swaps from 2500 to 3000, mounts and an ecu will get you to the 4500 for the 01 r swap. most pain in the *** thing imo is the wiring.
theres always a dick in forums actually this is not a teen i just bought an integra and im not a honda person and neither are any of my frends
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yea def man..i been talkin around and the k series seems to be the best bet how much do you tihnk an install would be do you know or does ne1? complete change over from auto to stick to i want to get a nice swap thats reliable if i get the k20 ill leave it stock till i save up enogh to build somthing nice ya know?
ITR swaps are going for 3700 complete now on ebay. jdm engines corp and jdm planet both have complete 97 swaps with the ecu and wires for 3600-3700 shipped. in fact the ITR long blocks are down to 2600 shipped if you just need an engine. i just bought one myself last week.
It all depends on how knowledgable you are when it comes to the chassis you are working with, your choice of FI or NA and the price and availability of the parts you need to do the swap. The ITR swap is pretty much a drop in affair, and it will make a potent package when complete. The K20, with its insane following as of late is also a bolt in affair, but getting the swap bolted into the car is just the beginning. There are so many things that add up quickly that people seem to forget (wiring harness, K-pro, axles or different front hubs, shifter box modification, header, fuel system, PS and AC removal system, etc). I know you can do without some of these things, but if you have seen a car with them, and then a car in which someone modified this, bent that, and welded this, it's a night and day difference. If you have a lot of time and money the K is the way to go IMO, especially if NA is your weapon of choice. You would be hard pressed to build a B series engine (NA) and make it run as well as a stock K series with just bolt ons and hondata. Also the K series is so smooth. I always used to think that the B series was a smooth engine, and it was compared to most other I4's from back in those days, but it pales in comparison to the K. Anyway, back to the B series now. If you want to put something together quickly and maybe add a turbo later, the B series will be just fine. Don't get me wrong...the K is amazing with boost as well, but the B series has been around so long that parts used to boost these engines are much more prevalent and therefore cheaper. Good advice is also commonplace as it seems as though every Tom, Dick, and Harry has built a turbo B series. In the end the three biggest factors always seem to be your wallet, your knowledge, and your time. Good luck in the Honda World!
wow i did not know that k's go for that low? complete..i thought they were around 5g for it..and ITR motors dropped price too? wow..not bad maybe consider going that instead of gsr-t then haha. if thats true...my friends them bought their kswap a long time ago. thanks if its true i rather go k, cuz its pretty badass stock already in a civic
The price for you to convert everything over and get it all done right is going to be a lot for both motors.
ITR swap - $5000
K-Swap - $8000
Unless you get the motors stolen and/or DIRT cheap, this price will not change much.
And remember, these prices are if you DO IT RIGHT. No cheap half *** jobs.
ITR swap - $5000
K-Swap - $8000
Unless you get the motors stolen and/or DIRT cheap, this price will not change much.
And remember, these prices are if you DO IT RIGHT. No cheap half *** jobs.
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read and re-read what weavertime1 and 92integraVTECgsr mentioned. This is your new pride and joy, this is your HONDA. DO IT RIGHT the first time, it'll save you tons of dough in the future.
I know everyone says go k series; but I'm sure all of those people will also tell you that a properly built b series will make you grin from ear to ear as well.
Best of luck.
read and re-read what weavertime1 and 92integraVTECgsr mentioned. This is your new pride and joy, this is your HONDA. DO IT RIGHT the first time, it'll save you tons of dough in the future.
I know everyone says go k series; but I'm sure all of those people will also tell you that a properly built b series will make you grin from ear to ear as well.

Best of luck.
^^^^^^very true i raced a ek with a k series in it and i had a n/a semibuilt b20 and was right next to him for 1/3 of his cost to build plus he was running slicks on the street so i say B SERIOUS and they won't let you down!!!!! K is way overated its just the new motor that came out and the market is hott for it wait a year and those ***** will be everywhere and they will make generic K parts like all the generic B series **** so swaps will be cheaper like freakin cheap swap mounts and parts that interchange with each other so it will be way easier to source a K SWAP SO stay B!!!!!!! i think of it this way b series is a small block chevy and a k is a big block chevy!!!! which has more parts and availability of these parts are better with a small block so if its stricly power your looking for then B series but with a K people see you as a more respectable hondatuner so there are up and downs but just me B SERIOUS
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A K-swap with slicks. That can do mid 12's in a 1/4 mile.
I doubt your car can do that. Atleast not with 1/3 of the cost.
K20s aren't that expensive like some of ya'll are saying.
I can get a full swap right now for $2,500.
A K-swap with slicks. That can do mid 12's in a 1/4 mile.
I doubt your car can do that. Atleast not with 1/3 of the cost.
K20s aren't that expensive like some of ya'll are saying.
I can get a full swap right now for $2,500.
The price for you to convert everything over and get it all done right is going to be a lot for both motors.
ITR swap - $5000
K-Swap - $8000
Unless you get the motors stolen and/or DIRT cheap, this price will not change much.
And remember, these prices are if you DO IT RIGHT. No cheap half *** jobs.
ITR swap - $5000
K-Swap - $8000
Unless you get the motors stolen and/or DIRT cheap, this price will not change much.
And remember, these prices are if you DO IT RIGHT. No cheap half *** jobs.
^^^^^^very true i raced a ek with a k series in it and i had a n/a semibuilt b20 and was right next to him for 1/3 of his cost to build plus he was running slicks on the street so i say B SERIOUS and they won't let you down!!!!! K is way overated its just the new motor that came out and the market is hott for it wait a year and those ***** will be everywhere and they will make generic K parts like all the generic B series **** so swaps will be cheaper like freakin cheap swap mounts and parts that interchange with each other so it will be way easier to source a K SWAP SO stay B!!!!!!! i think of it this way b series is a small block chevy and a k is a big block chevy!!!! which has more parts and availability of these parts are better with a small block so if its stricly power your looking for then B series but with a K people see you as a more respectable hondatuner so there are up and downs but just me B SERIOUS
my k24 full weight dc2 does 11.84 in the 1/4 with drag radials, all motor on a street tune.
the k motors have more technology in them, vtc!!!!! honda progress forward with new motors, i hate to be an as but as of right now k is the way
I plan on going K after life allows me to pay for it. What's your gas mileage and what % of that is freeway? That'd be the only thing keeping me from doing it is swapping and getting 20 on the streets.
^^^^^^very true i raced a ek with a k series in it and i had a n/a semibuilt b20 and was right next to him for 1/3 of his cost to build plus he was running slicks on the street so i say B SERIOUS and they won't let you down!!!!! K is way overated its just the new motor that came out and the market is hott for it wait a year and those ***** will be everywhere and they will make generic K parts like all the generic B series **** so swaps will be cheaper like freakin cheap swap mounts and parts that interchange with each other so it will be way easier to source a K SWAP SO stay B!!!!!!! i think of it this way b series is a small block chevy and a k is a big block chevy!!!! which has more parts and availability of these parts are better with a small block so if its stricly power your looking for then B series but with a K people see you as a more respectable hondatuner so there are up and downs but just me B SERIOUS
12 gallons last me about 340 - 360 about 50/50 highway and drive like a grandma. if im on it about 300 or so. not bad imo.
You get that full swap for $2500 and I'll pay you $3000 for it. Easiest $500 you'll ever make. But it probably won't happen because that price is BULLSHHHHH.



