my 93 accord wont start on the first try or the second but then after it starts it runs fine and after everthing gets hot it starts fine i cant figure out the problem ive replaced almost everthing and checked everthing i know my dust cover inside my dizzy was destroyed but that souldnt have anything to do with it what happenens is when you turn the key over its like a dead sound the engine wont crank or the starter but seemes like you can hear the roter button spinning inside the dizzy which i have replaced all that i just know when you drive it 4 ahwile it fine if anyone noes what this could be any help would be nice thanks

 

Have you had the battery load tested?

 

Has this condition just started sinse the weather turned cold?
Is this an automatic or a standard?
Am I correct by your discription that the starter doesn't respond or is it that the starter will spin the engine, but it won't fire? which?

P

 

its a5 speed no the starter wont spin its sound like the rotor button in the dizzy is spinning and yes this sarted when it got cold

 

also it has new battery new igniter do you think the main relay is the cause

 

There are several components on the way between the battery and it's intended victim the starter that can cause mayhem like this.
Ignition Switch (electrical portion)
Clutch Over-ride Switch (Clutch Pedal Hanger mounted)
And (of course) wiring.

Assuming the car isn't alarm equipped with a starter interupt module, I would suggest this.
1) Solicit the help of a friend or "significant other"
2) Test the Starter circuits by going directly to the Starter Solenoid and using either a test lamp or a multimeter, probe the Starter Signal Wire and verify it's energized when the key is turned to the "start" position.*

IF it (the test light) responds, you've got a defective starter solenoid/starter (traditionally replaced as an assembly)
IF it (the test light) doesn't energize, I would move upstream and check if the system is energized on both sides of the Clutch Over-ride switch**. Disconnect the connector at the CO/RS and jump the terminals with a paper clip. *
If the starter responds, the switch is kaput!
If it doesn't, entertain the thoughts of replacing the Ignition switch (Electrical Portion)

P

*Tranmission in neutral PLEASE!!

 

where is the cluth over ride switch and the starter is only a year old

 

The clutch over-ride switch is mounted to a bracket which makes up the pedal hanger assembly, #16 in this illustrated link:

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...catcgry5=PEDAL

P

 

ok thanks p ill check it out but i dont think thats what it is but you never know

 

Well if you know what it is, fix it yourself! This coming from a person who thinks his rotor button is spinning but his starter isn't......yeah I'm done here.

P, I don't know how you handle this crap.........must come with lots of experience dealing with the public eh!

Sounds like the starter is spining but isn't engaging........

 

yea the rotor button is spinning you ******* then another crank the starter kickes in then it starts and after it the engine is hot it starts fine

 

The rotor cannot spin without the starter first engaging and spining the flywheel, timing belt, & finally the cam. That is what turns the rotor. If I'm the *******......I don't think what you should be called is socialy exceptable on a public foum. I think you beater do some more reading into the basic automotive functions.

Anywho I hope P_Adams can help you out....I don't have the Holiday pateince.

 

look here dude when you turn the key and hold it to start everthing is dead you can hear the rotoer button spinning in the dizzy trust me i goonna get a friend and confirm thats what it is

 

Yes, it will turn as long as the starter has engaged first. Nothign rotates without the starter moving first. that's all I'm trying to tell you. It may not start but the "starter" still moves first.

Just check what P_Adams sugested you check then go from there.

Oh and FYI the dust cover being destroyed inside the dizzy could cause a problem. There are some sensors in there that could be hindered by pieces of plastic getting in the way of there signals.

 

ok