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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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i tried searching around for a second but didnt see any threads that helped, but when my neighbor sticks his car in reverse it will go into position fine, but when he tries to start driving it just grinds, sometimes it will actually catch, and either stay there or pop out after a few feet, but other gears work fine. is this just his reverse gear stripped down or is there anything else it could be?

first, he thought maybe the linkage was bent, well i looked, its not....because its a cable tranny. then i figured maybe the cable needs adjusted. so i took the intake parts off and looked at where it meets the tranny, manually put it into reverse from there, and got the same. wont catch, or just grind when i really push it in. so i would assume me doing it by hand knocks out the cables needing adjusted.

then figuring maybe i would just get lucky i bled the clutch and that didnt help. but while doing it, i seen the slave cylinder have a plastic zip tie restraint type looking thing around it like a jock strap or something. it goes around the bleeding valve, and 2 arms reach down the cylinder sides into the dust cover and snap into a plastic ring thats on the ball end of the probe boot(dont know specific name of those peices). well one arm was popped off so i put it back but when the clutch was pressed it did the same thing, and the one arm popped back off. i dont know what that is or dues but i have never seen it before. if i need to i can try to get some pics of it.

i also check the tranny fluid, and its kinda like a oil that is burnt a light brown/yellow. im pretty sure its not actual tranny fluid, and ive heard using regular oil or the wrong oil can break down some sort of seals in the tranny causing internal leaks/problems. could any of that be the cause and will putting the correct fluid in along with some of the thick tranny additive help?

last thing can give info on, is i noticed that when going to reverse the tranny makes a different noise, kinda like there is a metal ball in there that is getting knocked to the side when its going into the reverse position.

if all this comes down to a simple fix and anyone can tell me what the deal is i would appreciate it! if it comes down to being cheaper to just get a new tranny, then what all transmissions will properly bolt and wire into a 2002 civic, 1.6 motor, with no problems. not sure on the actual motor code, just know its 1.6, if i need it i can go get it.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

same thing happens to me. sometimes when i think i have it fully in reverse it isn't and wen i press on the gas it grinds and i don't move. then i have to slam it into reverse so it will stick then i am fine. an answer would be awsome. thanks
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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same thing happens to me. sometimes when i think i have it fully in reverse it isn't and wen i press on the gas it grinds and i don't move. then i have to slam it into reverse so it will stick then i am fine. an answer would be awsome. thanks

let me know if you find something out with yours outside of here. i know its fully in the reverse position, but it either just revs up like neutral or grinds if i put pressure on it. i tried just about everything to get it to catch too, only time i get it, is luck. tried starting it in reverse and it worked once then it popped out, stick was still in reverse just wasn't moving, tried slamming it, tried easing it in, tried wiggling it in side to side, tried rolling backwards and doing all that too.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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no one has anything?
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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put it in first then go to reverse.
It'll go in smoother
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oKayEG6
put it in first then go to reverse.
It'll go in smoother
im pretty sure the stick is going all the way in gear, its just not catching anything like all gear teeth are grinded off. i just dont get why there wouldnt be any metal in the tranny fluid if that was the case.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

Bad bushing, bad synchro, worn pressure plate, master cylinder...
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
There's no synchro on reverse, you gotta manually line up the gears.
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Which, to this day, still bothers me. I don't see why it wasn't ever implemented to ease transmission shifting.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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That obviously alleviates that possibility then.

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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

I didn't know that until quite recently, either.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

More than likely a bad bushing in the shifter assembly itself.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

i was driving my car and going into reverse i noticed it felt in gear, but when i tried to go it just revd up, so i pulled the shifter back harder and this time it went in further with alittle grinding. could his car be doing the same thing, except with his it is staying stuck, then the grinding from when i try to force it is it just barely trying to go in gear. what could cause that? the bushings you said are in the shifter assembly? im guessing thats where the cables meet the tranny?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

Yeah, this came up a LONG time ago......you don't have to jam it back, unless you've been doing it so long it maybe messed something up. I usually just push the clutch back in couple times wait a second and then put it in, and it usually goes in smoothly.

Someone else also mentioned that rolling your car just a little bit helps.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

Originally Posted by TN90accord
Yeah, this came up a LONG time ago......you don't have to jam it back, unless you've been doing it so long it maybe messed something up. I usually just push the clutch back in couple times wait a second and then put it in, and it usually goes in smoothly.

Someone else also mentioned that rolling your car just a little bit helps.
tried all of that, none of it worked
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

maybe you can try this. iwould just take the center console out and lude the shifter ball with white grease or wd-40 mfirst before rplacing the shifter
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HONDAPARTSMANMIKE
maybe you can try this. iwould just take the center console out and lude the shifter ball with white grease or wd-40 mfirst before rplacing the shifter

thanks, i was actually going to check the bushings today so i was going to go ahead and try lubing it up. i wish i still had my account for the little honda data base or whatever it is, where you just log in and search any issues and it comes up with common problems and how to fix it. they dont have a public version of that do they? i dont have to have to work there again just to get that
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

You'd be surprised at the problems cause by a dry shifter ball... I would do this first
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

Its a safety measure that honda uses. If the car moves at all forward, it will not go into gear completed to prevent and accidental shift from a forward gear into reverse. There is nothing you can do about it except put it in first gear and move slightly forward, then stop and try reverse.
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Default Re: 02 5spd, transmission problem in reverse

Originally Posted by Burnt Toast
Its a safety measure that honda uses. If the car moves at all forward, it will not go into gear completed to prevent and accidental shift from a forward gear into reverse. There is nothing you can do about it except put it in first gear and move slightly forward, then stop and try reverse.
Um, no.

I've disassembled several of these transmissions. There is no such mechanism.

The only lockout mechanism is to prevent a shift directly from 5th to reverse without selecting neutral.
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