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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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I'm a newb with Hondas. What options do I have for an h22 99 lude?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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options for what?
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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What can I use, and what works well for tuning?
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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"what can I use" is very vague. you can use your seatbelt is a good answer to me.

and for tuning, we'd have to know what's done to the car first to know how hardcore the tuning would be.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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I'm just doing a simple setup. T04E turbo, cast iron log manifold, full 3" exhaust, 1g bov, tial wastegate 5 psi, and management. I have e-manage blue, but I've heard hondata products are best option?
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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I'm just doing a simple setup. T04E turbo, cast iron log manifold, full 3" exhaust, 1g bov, tial wastegate 5 psi, and management. I have e-manage blue, but I've heard hondata products are best option?
Hondata is far from being the 'best' engine management. Its a good reliable system for a good price. It probably offers the best bang for the buck but its not the "best" one.

You can also use Neptune, eCtune, Crome.

If you want an all out stand alone Motec or AEM EMS are probably some of the best known ones. But these will cost you.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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this is for slick lude, i was looking through your pic at your lude and how did you get all your gauges in side your dash i wanted to do the to my car but dont know how to cut the clust and move it over.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick_LudE
Hondata is far from being the 'best' engine management. Its a good reliable system for a good price. It probably offers the best bang for the buck but its not the "best" one.

You can also use Neptune, eCtune, Crome.

If you want an all out stand alone Motec or AEM EMS are probably some of the best known ones. But these will cost you.
Which Hondata product would work well for a safe 5 psi tune? I'm looking for the cheapiest option. Thanks for info.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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For a safe tune, why don't you talk to the person who will be tuning the car, and see what they are most comfortable with? If you are not doing the tuning, you are better off using what the tuner is most familiar with in my opinion.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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For a safe tune, why don't you talk to the person who will be tuning the car, and see what they are most comfortable with? If you are not doing the tuning, you are better off using what the tuner is most familiar with in my opinion.
What he said check with your tuner what he feels he would be comfortable with.

As far as the 'cheapest' Hondata option. The least I would be using is the S200 with boost option.

There is a write-up somewhere. basically you have to hack out some plastic parts and you move the old console piece to the right.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Recommended socket/chip, and tune on Crome Pro. Anyone have any pro's, or con's with Crome Pro?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Can h22's handle 3-5 psi stock, or is that pushing it?
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick_LudE
What he said check with your tuner what he feels he would be comfortable with.

As far as the 'cheapest' Hondata option. The least I would be using is the S200 with boost option.
There is a write-up somewhere. basically you have to hack out some plastic parts and you move the old console piece to the right.
If you can get your hands on one. Hondata no longer produces s200.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by marcus81184
Recommended socket/chip, and tune on Crome Pro. Anyone have any pro's, or con's with Crome Pro?
Pro: It will work fine for a low boost setup. You can burn chips. Everyone and their mother can tune with it.

Cons: Crome is old news, and the developer of the software likes to disappear for months at a time. Crome is no longer a priority for the developer, Jon Cui. Some people have waited MONTHS for their registration strings to be sent to them.

A Crome user summed it up nicely on the pgmfi.org boards just 2 weeks ago:
"Think of it this way. CromePro costs $150 and eCtune costs $200. For fifty dollars more you get much better support and you get better software. The only thing you get with CromePro that you don't get with eCtune is the ability burn a chip. So the only people that will benefit from buying CromePro will be the ones that plan on cheating the system and using CromePro to tune multiple cars for profit. I say go for it!! If Jon's not going to take care of his customers then why should his customers worry about his policies. Honestly. I wish I never would have gave him the extra $300 for the dealer license and that I would have just started tuning for profit using my original CromePro."

Ask your tuner if he can set you up with eCtune, or at least the hondata s300. You may spend $200-300 more than you planned, but quality tuning is the most important part of any build, period. Believe me, I went from ghetto tuning with an FMU and boost retard box, to trying to tune for free with uberdata, to crome pro, to ectune. I pulled my hair out and thought my setup was worthless until I finally got it tuned correctly.

Also, 5-6psi is fine on an H22, with a decent tune.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by marcus81184
Can h22's handle 3-5 psi stock, or is that pushing it?
This thread was going down hill before it was even posted. Post this in the Forced Induction forum in Honda Tech. I know you will get flammed twice as bad but I think it is needed.


https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/

I suggest you learn A LOT more before you buy any thing else. I hope you know that you need a lot more to turbo your car. Buy an AEM EMS.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HondaKyle
Buy an AEM EMS.
Maybe an AEM EMS is the best option for an s2000, but it's overkill for a simple turbo setup on a prelude. ectune/hondata/neptune will all do more than he needs (and be easier to tune) for hundreds less.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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Pro: It will work fine for a low boost setup. You can burn chips. Everyone and their mother can tune with it.

Cons: Crome is old news, and the developer of the software likes to disappear for months at a time. Crome is no longer a priority for the developer, Jon Cui. Some people have waited MONTHS for their registration strings to be sent to them.

A Crome user summed it up nicely on the pgmfi.org boards just 2 weeks ago:
"Think of it this way. CromePro costs $150 and eCtune costs $200. For fifty dollars more you get much better support and you get better software. The only thing you get with CromePro that you don't get with eCtune is the ability burn a chip. So the only people that will benefit from buying CromePro will be the ones that plan on cheating the system and using CromePro to tune multiple cars for profit. I say go for it!! If Jon's not going to take care of his customers then why should his customers worry about his policies. Honestly. I wish I never would have gave him the extra $300 for the dealer license and that I would have just started tuning for profit using my original CromePro."

Ask your tuner if he can set you up with eCtune, or at least the hondata s300. You may spend $200-300 more than you planned, but quality tuning is the most important part of any build, period. Believe me, I went from ghetto tuning with an FMU and boost retard box, to trying to tune for free with uberdata, to crome pro, to ectune. I pulled my hair out and thought my setup was worthless until I finally got it tuned correctly.

Also, 5-6psi is fine on an H22, with a decent tune.
Thanks.
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