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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Default B swap into a 97civic ex

i was looking for mounts and came across this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/96-00...Q5fAccessories

was wondering if it was worth buying or is this crap thatll break on me
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Looks okay
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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says it fits d series or b series, i thought d and b where different
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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bump for help
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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just get them and when you find out if they dont suit your liking return them they have a 14 day return policy.... so if it fits its good if not send it back
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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it fits b and d series purely becuase they are only the d/s and p/s top mounts and the central rear engine/tranny rubber mount, if you swapping a b-series in, you still need the lower d/s and p/s from your USDM 99-00 SI (or any UKDM/JDM 96-00 EK4/JDM 96-00 EK9) along with the central rear mount "bracket" from the same civic as well

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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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it fits b and d series purely becuase they are only the d/s and p/s top mounts and the central rear engine/tranny rubber mount, if you swapping a b-series in, you still need the lower d/s and p/s from your USDM 99-00 SI (or any UKDM/JDM 96-00 EK4/JDM 96-00 EK9) along with the central rear mount "bracket" from the same civic as well

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So just to clarify i need the lower d/s and p/s mounts and a rear mount bracket?
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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why not just get hasport??
sure there kinda expensive but there gonna last longer and your going to the right part the first time.
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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recommend finding some stock used b series mounts.. i wouldn't skimp on motor mounts of all things.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:07 AM
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So just to clarify i need the lower d/s and p/s mounts and a rear mount bracket?
if you were to purchase these, then yes that would be what you need

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Everything you need should be right here:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/engine-swap-info-faqs-how-ck-engine-lights-878010/
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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So just to clarify i need the lower d/s and p/s mounts and a rear mount bracket?
i called autozone and they told me they have the lower d/s mount and their computers dont show anything for a lower p/s mount and also the comp didnt show anything for a rear mount bracket
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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if you run hasport/innovative/etc mounts, you dont need the lower torque mounts.
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
if you run hasport/innovative/etc mounts, you dont need the lower torque mounts.
you still need to run torque mounts whether you run aftermarket mounts or not.
it will keep the engine from torquing and it is a safety isssue as well.
it keeps the engine from going into the passenger compartment in the event of an accident.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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i was lookin at these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200269257839

if i buy this will i still need more mounts?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by radicaled434
i was lookin at these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200269257839

if i buy this will i still need more mounts?
those mounts will work along with a 99-00 SI rear engine bracket
you would just need to re-use your torque mounts
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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now i got a question about the ecu, this car is going to be my daily driver so its auto, im putting in a b20b and a b16 trans what ecu should i be using?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hasport
those mounts will work along with a 99-00 SI rear engine bracket
you would just need to re-use your torque mounts
is this the mount you are talking about?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...Q5fAccessories
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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go with the innovative mounts you be sorry. thats what i run
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Default Re: B swap into a 97civic ex

question still stands about the ecu and rear bracket
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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B16 and auto? Bump for you.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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go with the innovative mounts you be sorry. thats what i run
Loud vibration. I know.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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anything on the ecu? bracket?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by radicaled434
now i got a question about the ecu, this car is going to be my daily driver so its auto, im putting in a b20b and a b16 trans what ecu should i be using?
B-series automatic in an EK just isn't gonna happen. You're gonna end up with a mess.

-there are no automatic mounts to swap a B-series in an EK, so you'll have to fab something up on your own
-You have to cut the frame rail to get the transmission case to even fit.
-There isn't a proper ECU out there to allow this to happen, and there isn't anything you can really do about it either. Some may suggest using an OBD1 JDM SiR-G automatic tranny, TCM and ECU. However the JDM automatic P72 uses an OBD2 style eprom, so you can't chip it to run a B20, leaving you 100% screwed unless you want to run an LS tranny, TCM and ECU, at which point its gonna be geared long, still require a ton of fabrication. The only thing I can think of that may work is a JDM automatic OBD1 B16A ECU which i'm told doesn't use a TCM. Oh, and that integra TCM is about 40 wires to run as well. Its far, far easier to simply swap a manual in there which will actually work right.

Just so no one thinks i'm completely nuts about the Automatic P72 using an OBD2 style eprom, observe.



Edit, I dug this up, observe --> https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/honda-gsr-swap-getting-pita-2364737/

I know he was trying to do a GS-R swap, but everything still applies to you.

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Old Dec 26, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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ok so ive decided to go ahead and cut my losses and convert my car to manual ive got the b20b now i just need to find a b16 trans, once i get that what ecu should i be running?

and i was looking for rear bracket, do i need this to mount the engine?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250346648249
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