wtf just did a carfax on my 98 civic i just got 2 months ago wtf im pissed
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wow, well i have unlimited carfax until jan 19th 2009 but anyways
can i take this **** back to the dealer cuz the said it was never in an accident man im soo mad, i put 1500 down and i still owe 5790 after 2 payments of 285 a month wtf what do you guys think i should do?
03/25/1998 25 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Simi Valley, CA Odometer reading reported
04/22/1998 California
Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
03/24/2000 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Simi Valley, CA Title issued or updated
02/27/2002 46,467 California
Inspection Station
Simi Valley, CA Passed emissions inspection
03/12/2004 67,465 California
Inspection Station
Simi Valley, CA Passed emissions inspection
03/09/2006 85,542 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
03/04/2008 99,354 Damage Report Damage reported
Damage to rear
Damage to front
CARFAX recommends checking for damage during your pre-purchase inspection.
04/17/2008 99,455 California
Inspection Station Failed emissions inspection
04/30/2008 99,591 California
Inspection Station Failed emissions inspection
05/06/2008 99,698 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
9/02/2008 101,673 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
09/08/2008 101,701 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Pacific Region
Listed as
a dealer vehicle
09/10/2008 101,730 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
Not Reported California
Police Report
Reference # Accident reported
10/21/2008 California this is when i bought it
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Murrieta, CA Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
can i take this **** back to the dealer cuz the said it was never in an accident man im soo mad, i put 1500 down and i still owe 5790 after 2 payments of 285 a month wtf what do you guys think i should do?
03/25/1998 25 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Simi Valley, CA Odometer reading reported
04/22/1998 California
Motor Vehicle Dept. Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
03/24/2000 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Simi Valley, CA Title issued or updated
02/27/2002 46,467 California
Inspection Station
Simi Valley, CA Passed emissions inspection
03/12/2004 67,465 California
Inspection Station
Simi Valley, CA Passed emissions inspection
03/09/2006 85,542 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
03/04/2008 99,354 Damage Report Damage reported
Damage to rear
Damage to front
CARFAX recommends checking for damage during your pre-purchase inspection.
04/17/2008 99,455 California
Inspection Station Failed emissions inspection
04/30/2008 99,591 California
Inspection Station Failed emissions inspection
05/06/2008 99,698 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
9/02/2008 101,673 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
09/08/2008 101,701 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Pacific Region
Listed as
a dealer vehicle
09/10/2008 101,730 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
Not Reported California
Police Report
Reference # Accident reported
10/21/2008 California this is when i bought it
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Murrieta, CA Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
Was it a small dealership? Judging by the auction, I'm guessing it is. There's probably nothing you can do about it because it's up to the buyer to research the car before purchasing it. Also, very minor damage(ie. small tap, small scratch with another car) can be considered accidents if it was reported.
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Was it a small dealership? Judging by the auction, I'm guessing it is. There's probably nothing you can do about it because it's up to the buyer to research the car before purchasing it. Also, very minor damage(ie. small tap, small scratch with another car) can be considered accidents if it was reported.
well surely if the dealer has taken it in a p/x they would of done the check before hand for there own satisfaction?, also, is it not illegal for them to sell a vehicle knowning that it has been in a heavy accident previously and not passing this info onto the customer? (it is here in he UK)
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Generally people run a carfax (((((((((((((((( PRIOR )))))))))))))))) to purchasing the car. Why would you take someones word especially a shitty car salesman. Take that bucket back. Why did you pay so much for a 98 civic in the first place, that was your first mistake!
tell them your going to report them and they going to get their dealership license taken away from them if they dont take the car back and give you your money back, take the report with you tho.
Here in Canada if you buy a used car the SELLER must provide you with the inspection report (carfax etc.) and you must submit it when plating the car @ the DMV or they will not let you plate it.
Also, FYI if you call honda they also keep these types of records but they tend to be inacurrate. According the Honda Canada my EM1 was destroyed. But according the provincial registry it was only accidented. When I took it apart to inspect it it was just the bumper and one fender that had been replaced. (I was given the car for a full day 8am to 8pm to test drive and inspect it)
Good luck man.
Also, FYI if you call honda they also keep these types of records but they tend to be inacurrate. According the Honda Canada my EM1 was destroyed. But according the provincial registry it was only accidented. When I took it apart to inspect it it was just the bumper and one fender that had been replaced. (I was given the car for a full day 8am to 8pm to test drive and inspect it)
Good luck man.
Did you buy the car "As-is?" You know, you should have gotten a report before purchasing the car. Truth be told, if you failed to ask them for a report and signed a contract to buy the car you're SOL. There's nothing you can do to get away from it, even if you tried to take them to court they have a contract against you. I suppose you could go there and try to say you'll trash their rep by telling everyone not to buy from them, but I don't know if that will do anything. But if you bought the car as-is there is nothing you can do in legal terms.
Why anyone would buy a used car without getting a report (especially because any dealership will give you one for FREE) is beyond me. Also, why in the hell did you buy a 98 civic for almost $8,000? Holy **** man! You can get a 2008 for like $16k.
Why anyone would buy a used car without getting a report (especially because any dealership will give you one for FREE) is beyond me. Also, why in the hell did you buy a 98 civic for almost $8,000? Holy **** man! You can get a 2008 for like $16k.
My brother had something similar happen. He bought a lexus is300 and the dealer gave him a carfax report saying it never had been in an accident. About 4 years later he went to a dealer to see about trading it in to get a new car and the dealer pulled up the carfax and saw it had been in an accident. He had all the paper from buying the car except the carfax. It's to bad could have goten them for fraud.
"tell them your going to report them and they going to get their dealership license taken away from them if they dont take the car back and give you your money back, take the report with you tho."
I agree talk to the manager/owner and threaten to report them. gl
"tell them your going to report them and they going to get their dealership license taken away from them if they dont take the car back and give you your money back, take the report with you tho."
I agree talk to the manager/owner and threaten to report them. gl
My brother had something similar happen. He bought a lexus is300 and the dealer gave him a carfax report saying it never had been in an accident. About 4 years later he went to a dealer to see about trading it in to get a new car and the dealer pulled up the carfax and saw it had been in an accident. He had all the paper from buying the car except the carfax. It's to bad could have goten them for fraud.
"tell them your going to report them and they going to get their dealership license taken away from them if they dont take the car back and give you your money back, take the report with you tho."
I agree talk to the manager/owner and threaten to report them. gl
"tell them your going to report them and they going to get their dealership license taken away from them if they dont take the car back and give you your money back, take the report with you tho."
I agree talk to the manager/owner and threaten to report them. gl
The problem with this is that it's not like the dealership gave him a false carfax. They didn't give him one at all because he didn't ask..that's on the buyer. Yes, dealerships can not deny the request for a carfax, but if you don't ask it's not their problem. If he bought the car as-is and signed the contract he's pretty much screwed. Not to get you down, OP, I just don't want to give you false hope.
You got screwed. The damage had to be significant if it was reported to the DMV. Alot of these fly by night shops will sell you a lemon and fight it until the end because of the "no cooling off period". I don't even think it will qualify under the lemon law because it works and isn't totaled. Paying that much for a used civic with over 100k on it was your first mistake. Secondly, buying from a shady *** corner lot dealership was your second mistake. Lastly, not getting a carfax before buying it and at least not doing a thorough ispection of it yourself was just not smart. If it was sold as is then you won't get anywhere with trying to return it. Your last resort would be to get a lawyer and then you'll be out more money for the fees. Probably gonna have to chalk it up to a loss and learn your lesson. Impulsive buying is always bad. Patience and going through the proper steps to assure yourself you're not getting screwed is the only way to do things with all these liars and crooks nowadays. The sad thing about it is they probably got it from the auction for a grand or two, spit shined it, and ripped you off.
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You got screwed. The damage had to be significant if it was reported to the DMV. Alot of these fly by night shops will sell you a lemon and fight it until the end because of the "no cooling off period". I don't even think it will qualify under the lemon law because it works and isn't totaled. Paying that much for a used civic with over 100k on it was your first mistake. Secondly, buying from a shady *** corner lot dealership was your second mistake. Lastly, not getting a carfax before buying it and at least not doing a thorough ispection of it yourself was just not smart. If it was sold as is then you won't get anywhere with trying to return it. Your last resort would be to get a lawyer and then you'll be out more money for the fees. Probably gonna have to chalk it up to a loss and learn your lesson. Impulsive buying is always bad. Patience and going through the proper steps to assure yourself you're not getting screwed is the only way to do things with all these liars and crooks nowadays. The sad thing about it is they probably got it from the auction for a grand or two, spit shined it, and ripped you off.

basically heres where it all started okay, i went to trade it in for a subaru and i told them that i owed 5700 on it and they looked at me and said quote "damn man who screwed you" then i said oh well i just dont want it anymore can you take it as a trade in, and they said sure they will have it inspected to see what its worth..
so as im waiting for the loan paperwork to go through they came back within 20 minutes and said that they wont give me any more then 1500 for it, and i was shocked and said why not its still in great shape, and their mechanic said that the whole rear end has been replaced and some of the front end, so i just lost it and told them **** ill be back in a few months **** i was soo mad, holy **** i have never been so upset in my life
Bottom line:
-Carfax before you buy
-Try to borrow the car for a day or 2 before you buy to tear it apart and see if theres any hidden damage, or worn out broken parts before you buy, when you go back to purchase use this to negotiate a better deal.
-I know this doesn't apply in your case, but always check to see that the check engine light comes on when you turn the key to accessory, some people pull the bulb to hid a CEL.
oh yea i wouldnt doubt it, and the problem is now, if i try to sell it in a few months where i owe less, noobdy is going to want to buy it becase of the prior accident 
basically heres where it all started okay, i went to trade it in for a subaru and i told them that i owed 5700 on it and they looked at me and said quote "damn man who screwed you" then i said oh well i just dont want it anymore can you take it as a trade in, and they said sure they will have it inspected to see what its worth..
so as im waiting for the loan paperwork to go through they came back within 20 minutes and said that they wont give me any more then 1500 for it, and i was shocked and said why not its still in great shape, and their mechanic said that the whole rear end has been replaced and some of the front end, so i just lost it and told them **** ill be back in a few months **** i was soo mad, holy **** i have never been so upset in my life

basically heres where it all started okay, i went to trade it in for a subaru and i told them that i owed 5700 on it and they looked at me and said quote "damn man who screwed you" then i said oh well i just dont want it anymore can you take it as a trade in, and they said sure they will have it inspected to see what its worth..
so as im waiting for the loan paperwork to go through they came back within 20 minutes and said that they wont give me any more then 1500 for it, and i was shocked and said why not its still in great shape, and their mechanic said that the whole rear end has been replaced and some of the front end, so i just lost it and told them **** ill be back in a few months **** i was soo mad, holy **** i have never been so upset in my life
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well i put the deposit, and i have been making the payments, she doesnt want it anymore and i dont really like it at all, so i dont really give a **** about the car besides i HAVE to pay for it now
and if i got screwed buying another car oh well, atleast it will be what i want to drive ya knowbut i guess they are closed i drove by there and have been calling and no answer so idk
i guess i can call the loan place and say that they lied about my job, that i didnt have a job when i bought the car but i dont think thats gonna do ****, but still w/e guess im ****ed
I understand now. Things are different when there's women and children involved. 
It sucks she's sticking you with this car that neither of you want.
I wish I had some advice for you. best of luck

It sucks she's sticking you with this car that neither of you want.
I wish I had some advice for you. best of luck
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well, i just got back i went in there and told them whats up, i told them that the subaru dealership inspected it and told me that it has been hit in the front and the back, and he said that they were lying to me that they say things like that just to get the trade in for cheaper, then i said well they werent lying look at teh carfax.
and he just said well i buy it like this and sell it people get screwed i get screwed all the time, and i told him ya well you probably bought this piece off **** for 1500 bucks and then you had the ****ing ***** to sell it for 7 grand, then im the ****ing idiot who payed 7 grand for a ****ing honda
and he just said im sorry man theres nothing i can do so i just told him to **** off that i want him to take the car back or atleast refinance it to a lower price so i dont have to pay so much for a ****ing wrecked honda and he said no..
well you live and you learn guys, learn from my mistake, never buy a car without looking into it when your girl says that she wants "this one"
**** me
and he just said well i buy it like this and sell it people get screwed i get screwed all the time, and i told him ya well you probably bought this piece off **** for 1500 bucks and then you had the ****ing ***** to sell it for 7 grand, then im the ****ing idiot who payed 7 grand for a ****ing honda
and he just said im sorry man theres nothing i can do so i just told him to **** off that i want him to take the car back or atleast refinance it to a lower price so i dont have to pay so much for a ****ing wrecked honda and he said no..
well you live and you learn guys, learn from my mistake, never buy a car without looking into it when your girl says that she wants "this one"
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