Hey guys semi new to hondas been doing alot of Reading Ill try not to ask the usual dumb questions With that being said I just picked up a 88 civic dx And everything has been converted from same year si Wiring harness cluster etc Now I bought the car As a project obviously Just trying to figure out The best route to go

So the knowledge I gained is with the new harness ecu etc The car now run Mpi rather then dpi. Now obviously im going to put money into the car I just dont know what the best route would be for my goals

Not looking to spend 2 grand on a motor

any motor i put it id like to boost just dont know what would be my best route

my goals are 200-300whp

option A) I was thinking buy the stock a6 with si tranny in it and boost it but i dont how much power can be made on it

option B) buy b18a since there is no convertion to obd1 just buy mounts linkage and tranny axles etc and boost that

Option C) buy Sohc zc and boost etc

Option D) Convert to Obd1 Which I dont know how much work is involved or how much that would cost and do a d16y8 Vtec plus boost

I would appreciate your onions and Advice Im guessing all the motors I listed cost around same price thanks.

 

if your limit is $2000 boost the stock motor. You aren't going to be able to do a b swap and have money for the turbo. Vtec sohc and boost isn't much better just keep the stock motor and buy a good turbo and manifold and get a good tune. That alone should be$2000

 

Ya problem is I dont have a stock motor how much do they run price wise

 

they did not make a 88 civic si. you probably have either a 88 crx si wiring harness or a 89 civic si wiring harness.

you could do a d16 with a buget turbo build under 2k.

possibly a dual zc, all the zc stuff uses the same mounts as your d series.

If it was me and there is no engine, etc in the car. Get a d series engine, rock it stock until you have enough money to accomplish what you want. By then also you have figured out what you really want to do.

Remember boosting the car is great but it is great to go fast but slowing it down is another or either making it handle.

I've got a d16 in my crx. Totally stock for now. I've done all the suspension and brake work before I put a motor in the car. I know I can out stop a lot of cars around.

Trust me my brakes have saved my car from being destroyed by the text messaging mums driving the 6000 lbs beasts plenty of mornings on the way to work.

you could possibly find a b series but for 2k you would have to find crack head prices for everything.

 

d16 a6 or d16y

 

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Go find a d16 and build a turbo kit for it. It's the only way you'll stay on budget.

 

just build a ls/vtec and dont turbo till later just get a good moter and throw it in there and wait till later for a turbo thats what im doing but with a b20

 

u can build ur d16 for under 2k with boost. vitaras eagles junkyard turbo/ebay, hf mani/log mani, downpipe, injectors and resistor box, tune

obd1 conversion( harness,ecu) simple if u know simple wiring/soldering

 

you can find a d-series at a junk yard for cheap, but prolly not a b-series, then you will prolly have enough money to boost the sohc, which would be dope

 

if u don't have a dally driver don't exspect to drop this in i a weekend and have it work right away. don't jump into the first thing u see. get what u want. do it up right the first time don't swap it untell u have every thing u need. i love my dohc zc but i have truble finding parts sum times (basterd engines can be a pain in the ***). these are just some of the things i ran into. if this is just a strat project car don't half *** it and when u do get it running and sumthing small is wrong don't just bandaid it. obd-1 isn't that hard to convert to. best of all keep reserching. and yes i know i need hooked on phonics if u need any help even for stupid **** just im me iv been there too.

 

well to be super honest you won't even achieve 300 bwp with a boosted d16 stock. you will have to at least spend a smooth 5-6 grand on a good quality turbo. I'm not trying to shoot down the idea but I think if you were patient and save some money and bought a b16 xsi full swap then turbo that you will be in a better position. cause once you boost your d series your just gonna want more. it won't be enough trust me. been there done that.

 

crxjarred and I are on the same page. and ls swap can get pretty expensive though. you can get a b20 long block on password jdm for 550 then you will need to purchase the correct hubs 94 teggy. half shafts ecu headers and transmission linkage wiring harness all kinds of ****

 

5-6 grand on a quality turbo? wth are you smoking bro? he can build a sohc for boost with all the bells and whistles for a third of that or less.

ive got about 600 TOTAL, into my turbo sohc zc build as of now. that includes the following,

garrett t25 turbo with NO shaft play w/ downpipe and compressor pipe-80
550 cc injectors from rx7-20
bosch Porsche BOV-10 BNIB
hf manifold-20
zc block-50
a6 crank-50
vitara pistons with rings BNIB-50
bent used intercooler piping(2.5 id)-15
stage 2 clutch-120
stock flywheel-60
new water pump-20
timing belt-16
aem tru time cam gear BNIB-25
obd1 ecu chipped-20
intercooler-20
BNIB main/rod bearings-included in y8 head trade i did and later sold.

all i have left to get is rods(200-350), d15b vtec head(50 bucks), full gasket set(ebay), and an obd0 -> obd1 ecu jumper harness(40 on ebay). thatll just barely put me at 1000 once all is said and done. that leaves me with another grand on suspension and tires.

OP, if you look for deals you can find lots of stuff. especially if you have junkyards nearby. do some research before outright buying something when someone says, this is better. its about what YOU WANT!! i had an entire b series swap at one point and forked it to go turbo d. i have my purposes and im sure you do as well.

 

Where on ebay did you see a jumper harness obdo->0bd1 for $40?

 

I'm talkin about an big turbo setup not some ebay turbo that looks like my dick rolled up. Your shopping off of ebay dude those parts are not quality parts. I'm all for cheap stuff. but he will not get 200 hp or 300 hp with a zc and a $600 dollar turbo setup.

 

Take a look at homemadeturbo.com
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_projects/

OP was looking to get 200~300. He can do that on a D series.
I would suggest going with the Z6 motor. Why not throw a Y8 intake manifold on there too because you can... and why not!??!

Hunt around and piece together a T3/T4 turbo kit and you should be able to break the 200 mark. I've read of people making mid 200's with a Greddy 15g kit, stock Z6 block, 14psi. I'm sure I wouldn't want to DD with that much boost, but 9~10 will get you right around the 200 mark I think.

 

right and how much is the greddy 15g???

 

b20vtec... a turbo is a turbo. garrett, greddy, HKS, they are all quality turbos from all manufactures.

jmiles, they're on there. its just a matter of sourcing and looking for the least obvious postings. misspelled words bring up tons of stuff unknown to many ebay shoppers.

4drEF, thats what im talking about. where i originally got the idea to turbo my honda. studied and studied, searched and searched. been piecing my kit together for quite some time. lots of good info to be had there if you read around all the jackass post.

and back to b20, you can spend 6g's on any turbo you want. but when it comes down to it a HM kit within a fraction of the cost can get you there faster. look at the black crx on pinks man. it was a pieced together junkyard kit with one hell of a tune by a well respected tuner. i dont care what anyone says, I WILL turn out well over 200 hp with this setup and it be reliable, a dd, and a track *****. no pun intended, but 6 grand can be spent else where for better things than a single turbo...i understand what your saying, but some people dont have 6g's just floating around in the bank vault.

 

Lmfaoooooooo

 

I just recently (less than a month ago) finally bought mine. I got it right here on HT! $850 shipped and NO shaft play - included the turbo, Greddy manifold, IC, piping, BOV, chipped basemapped vtec converted P09, tubes and fittings. I'll have it all done for under $1000... easy.

Could have done it for WAY less if I did my own piping, but I didn't want the hassle yet. I'll probably end up doing it over in the future.

 

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