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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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does anyone know how good this edelbrock performer x turbo is on a civic? i have a 94 with a jdm d16. i realize i would need to replace the crank rods and add low compression pistons but as far as an ecu goes what should i use?
Old Dec 14, 2008 | 06:04 AM
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The Edelbrock Performer X allegedly gives mid range gains on power, even on naturally aspirated cars, from the reviews I have seen. This will benefit you much more since you will be turbocharged.
For ECU, a majority of people use a Honda OBD1 P28, which is then tuned with Crome or similar.

Side note: Because you are already OBD1 from the factory, this will allow you to still pass annual inspection, assuming all other variables are constant. :-)
Old Dec 14, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Actually you don't have to replace any engine internals. By replacing them you will make the car more boost friendly but also it will then be less reliable. I had a d16z6 in a 97 coupe it made 201whp on 6 psi on stock motor with a good tune. The t28 that comes with the edelbrock is a good turbo but you will be spending over $4k on that setup.
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Actually you don't have to replace any engine internals. By replacing them you will make the car more boost friendly but also it will then be less reliable. I had a d16z6 in a 97 coupe it made 201whp on 6 psi on stock motor with a good tune. The t28 that comes with the edelbrock is a good turbo but you will be spending over $4k on that setup.
How do you figure it will be less reliable?

Forged pistons/rods > OEM (in terms of strength)

If anything, you'd be making the car more reliable by adding forged pistons and rods as opposed to keeping it stock, just my .02.
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that was my thought because i talked to edelbrock and they suggested i get a setup that gives the car 8.5:1 compression ratio.
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A lower compression ratio gives you ALOT more room for error, plus forged is stronger than the cast OEM stuff.
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No internal aftermarket part is going to be as reliable as an oem honda. I have seen many cars that have been built with low comp pistons and forged rods not run correctly, even with tuning.
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Originally Posted by brent_si
No internal aftermarket part is going to be as reliable as an oem honda. I have seen many cars that have been built with low comp pistons and forged rods not run correctly, even with tuning.
So, what you're saying is that if I were to take a forged piston/rod combo on a boosted setup, and then had the same motor with OEM Honda internals on the same boosted setup, the OEM Honda would be able to take more of a beating?
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jkov240
a lower compression ratio gives you alot more room for error, plus forged is stronger than the cast oem stuff.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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who would you recommend and how much would i be looking to spend with a forged crank/rods/piston setup?
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It did me fine try 555 whp dat run 10.5 once n dey never let me run again wit no role change.. Victor x r great for tubos
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Originally Posted by dublekick
who would you recommend and how much would i be looking to spend with a forged crank/rods/piston setup?
You wouldn't NEED a forged crank, that's more of a want.

But I remember spending somewhere in the $800-$1000 range for mey 9.5:1 SRP pistons and Eagle rods, but that was back in 2006, so I'm sure prices have gone up some.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Wow...it never fails. If you want help and actual answers, ask this in the Forced Induction forum.
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