Midwest Autoworks New Project S2000.400HP.12's.Under 10 grand total

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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Well here it is Midwest Autoworks new project S2000. Ive been craving a new one since I sold my old one to CFT.

My goal is to have 400 RWHP. Run 12's Whether is be 12.9 or 12.1, I dont care.
I plan on doing this with a budget of 10,000 dollars including the price of the car.

Its kind of a budget build but im using it to prove you can have a fast, reliable street car for cheap if you know the right people and do the work yourself

Here is what I have for pricing so far.


2001 Silverstone S2000. 4500.00
Used Inline Pro Turbo Kit minus the turbo. 1000.00 ( Bought on s2ki)
Tein Springs on stock shocks for now. 170 (Thanx Tom @ Yoparts)
NRG Quick Release steering wheel setup. 245(Thanx Weksos, but where is that trim piece?)
Silverstone painted VC. Free. Did it myself.

The car has some big bulky SSR wheels on it which i will sell and get some money back, maybe put something light on or stock.

So as far right now i have 6000 into this car and have about 4000 left to play with.

It does need seat though, thats why i got it so cheap.
Not real sure what i am going to do with that.
I plan on selling the stock steering wheel to recoupe money for the NRG wheel setup.

Let me hear what you guys have to say, ill take any suggestions on a turbo, but i was thinking a t3 60-1.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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I'd say a GT BB, but they're a little on the expensive side. SC61 maybe?
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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SC61 was a choice, i do not want a BB or watercooled turbo I had issues with my gt3076 r and cooling when i had my other turbo s2000.

I would like someting fast spooling and makes like 450 incase i decide to go for a little more
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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You had cooling issues with your 30R? I haven't as of yet on my turbo B. Crazy.

There's always the 60-1. Or one of the BW turbos. TheShodan should see this thread soon. That man knows everything about turbos.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MidwestAutoWorks
SC61 was a choice, i do not want a BB or watercooled turbo I had issues with my gt3076 r and cooling when i had my other turbo s2000.

I would like someting fast spooling and makes like 450 incase i decide to go for a little more
What kind of cooling issues did you have ?
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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I dont really want to get into it, but it had to do with the lines and the S2000 lack of good lines to connect to
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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I got a lovefab setup with a 60-1 master power, made 340whp with stock fuel pump and 2.5 dp and exhaust at 8psi, 400 is very conservative. I would say mid to high 400's are very easily reached with the proper setup. Look into a diff if your trying to run the 1320.

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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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damn how did you get the car so cheap?
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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I cant say how i got the car for cheap, otherwise internet brands will want sponsor money since everyone and thier mom will want one.

My old old s2 we made 434 @ the wheels on 9 psi with a 3mm IP headgasket, this time im going to skip the gasket, go for 12 psi and hope for the best.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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i can set you up with a guy that is making some custom t3t4 50 trims whats custom about it is he's putting a gt turbine wheel with the 50 trim compressor and if pushed extremely hard it could do 485-500 on race gas

and you can get it bb or non bb and it would spool REAL quick on that motor

or for even cheaper you could get a t3t4 60 trim with a stg5 wheel that could make about 510-530 if pushed REAL hard and on race gas

or the cheapest route would be to buy a holset hx40 it has the potential for alot more than 400whp and can be had for CHEAP have you considered that

if your interested in any type of custom t3t4 let me know and i will set you up with a guy that can do alot of different stuff i haven't seen others do
and he owns a legit business and is very well known in the 1.8t VW community for his reliability and customer service his website is being redone at the moment so if your interested let me know and ill get you in touch with him

does OBX make a diff for those yet if they do you could save some money by getting that, just when you get it take it apart and put it back together
sometimes the chinese kids don't tighten everything tight enough if they don't you could alway just weld it up and both wheels would pull the whole time

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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MidwestAutoWorks
SC61 was a choice, i do not want a BB or watercooled turbo I had issues with my gt3076 r and cooling when i had my other turbo s2000.

I would like someting fast spooling and makes like 450 incase i decide to go for a little more
SC61 is a great turbo

Every one laughed at me when i told them I was trying to budget my turbo S build...i guess im not the only one who is ona budget.


Originally Posted by spoolin turbo s
for even cheaper you could get a t3t4 60 trim with a stg5 wheel that could make about 510-530 if pushed REAL hard and on race gas
I have a t3t4 60 with a stage 5 wheel, real fast spool
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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My vote is for the 60-1. Mainly because he's only shooting for 400whp, and on pump gas.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MidwestAutoWorks
I dont really want to get into it, but it had to do with the lines and the S2000 lack of good lines to connect to
Oh, it just sounded like the turbo was getting the blame. As for the lines, aluminum radiator with welded bungs is the way to go usually.I'd look into the bullseye series, they have a lot to select from size wise.

The time your shooting for won't be hard to achieve, just look into using a good flowing manifold to free up the potential power that is there.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 90blackcrx
Oh, it just sounded like the turbo was getting the blame. As for the lines, aluminum radiator with welded bungs is the way to go usually.I'd look into the bullseye series, they have a lot to select from size wise.

The time your shooting for won't be hard to achieve, just look into using a good flowing manifold to free up the potential power that is there.

if you had read you would know he already has a manifold and bullseye turbos are as much as gt series turbos

did you read any of this thread at all before you posted

and for who said 60-1 the t3t460 trim is cheaper i think and it'll do 500 if pushed to the max on race gas

i still say go with the hx40 you could find one if you looked pretty hard for under 200 dollars

holset,
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do the holset the dsm guys swear by them and the are UBER CHEAP
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spoolin turbo s
if you had read you would know he already has a manifold and bullseye turbos are as much as gt series turbos

did you read any of this thread at all before you posted

and for who said 60-1 the t3t460 trim is cheaper i think and it'll do 500 if pushed to the max on race gas

i still say go with the hx40 you could find one if you looked pretty hard for under 200 dollars

holset,
holset,
holset

do the holset the dsm guys swear by them and the are UBER CHEAP
lol have you seen the HX40?, i mean actually seen it and touched it, second question have you seen and S2k bay?

to OP: you can build N/A and get 12's, but if boost is your thing just go get a 57 or 60 trim its cheap and they work.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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already have an inline pro turbo kit for it minus the turbo
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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How long before you part this one out?
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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maybe i missed it but where the hell did you find an s2000 for $4500?
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by miller
maybe i missed it but where the hell did you find an s2000 for $4500?

He's a car salesman so he has hookups, I am sure of it.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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lol have you seen the HX40?, i mean actually seen it and touched it, second question have you seen and S2k bay?

to OP: you can build N/A and get 12's, but if boost is your thing just go get a 57 or 60 trim its cheap and they work.

ever hear of a saw?

cut a hole in the hood it'll look badass with the turbo sticking out
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spoolin turbo s
ever hear of a saw?

cut a hole in the hood it'll look badass with the turbo sticking out
no comment due to you not getting it. go look at an inline pro mani, then go look at a HX40, then go look at the side of s2k bay fitment issues 'r' us
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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oh yeah i forgot its not a topmount is it?

then get a t3t4 60 trim it has 500whp potential and its cheaper than the 60-1
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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would a hy35 or hx 35 fit or a hx34/40 fit?if the last one would fit that would be the best
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spoolin turbo s
would a hy35 or hx 35 fit or a hx34/40 fit?if the last one would fit that would be the best
ALL Holset turbos are just physically large in measurement.

the HX40/35 is a kickass turbo but when engine bay space is a constraint the holset need to be ruled out.
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