tdo6h 20g w/ external gate.

thought some of you would like this..even though its not a honda.

shooting for 360whp, 340tq, 22psi, pump gas.
setup is 264, 272's
extrude honed intake manifold
2.5inch downpipe
2g mas
780cc injectors
garrett race core fmic
safc
built trans
twin disk
4bolt rear




and a picture of the car...since its still one of the cleanest around.

 

One of my fav 1st gens, super clean :Thumbup:

 

Looking good. I want to see more pictures.

 

Nice ! Very clean,and you seem to have a solid setup.Good choice in turbo as well.Great for the street.A lot of people overlook the need for a strong drivetrain in an AWD DSM.You seem to be on the right track.Not to knock the AFC,but I would definately invest in some sort of engine management system.Haltech's are pretty affordable.Thats what I've always used in my DSM's.They get the job done and can be purchased at a fraction of what some other EMS's go for.
I don't think you'll have a problem making that kind of power with your current setup.My 93' Talon made 366whp/335ft.lbs on 21psi and pump gas using a TD06-20G.Down the road I had ended up switching to a PTE SC-6152E and made 384whp/344ft.lbs on 20psi and pump gas.

 

1. You need to read.

2. He already has a modified transmission, it can handle it being bone stock as well just can't shift fast.

3. You can make well over 400hp on a TD06-20g.

 

How'd you like the 20g?

I know they don't make great top end power...but i like faster spooling setups with more torque for street driven cars.

 

I know exactly what a 20G can do.Yes,there have been a few guys to extract over 400whp with a 20G,but thats on C-16 with 25+ pounds of boost.When you get up to that hp range the 20G is not the most efficient turbo you could go with.I think if you have this car tuned on pump gas and 18-22psi you'll be happy.It spools up fast and has fairly decent power on the top end.Judging by your cams I'd say it's safe to say your not putting this thing much past 8,500 rpm's.If thats the case I'd say you'll be happy with it.You should easily turn out mid to low 12's without breaking a sweat.Good luck.Keep us posted.

 

I didn't take your stuff in a negative way. You're just misinformed a bit.

12's ? I can do that on a 14b. I'd be shooting for high 10's. 450 +/- 50hp will do it.

497awhp has been made on a 20g it's not magic.

Why are you justifying rebuilding a modified transmission 300hp doesn't need rebuilding unless he broke it? It'll handle that power for years tighter preload so things don't have trouble coming apart causing hard shifting. The stock transfer case can handle 500+ all day he has a 4 bolt rear too.

 

Midshipcivic, keep in mind that my car has PS, AC and is near full weight.

I could shave several hundred pounds off of the car but i'd sacrifice driveability...which i'm not willing to do at this point in my life.

I'm also running a stock motor w/chipped ecu/afc which limits the power i can make.

Dyno results will happen in the next 3-4 weeks.

 

What does that have to do with anything?

 

Well, as far as getting 10's out of my car with a 20g on pump gas.

At full weight and all options my car won't be setting any records.

 

An evo can do it on full weight? Is there a specific reason for it to be on pump gas?

Sometimes I don't get why some don't use full potential of their turbochargers.

 

i like running straight 93 octane because its convenient.

in the past i've run race fuel...but i'm not looking for maximum performance.

a nice reliable 350-360whp setup is fun and worry free...which is what i'm shooting for.

 

'' twin disc '', but yet 300hp, and not looking for max performance?
Some thing you leaving out?

You don't even need half of your list to do 300 on pump fuel.

 

The quartermaster 7.5 twin disc i have feels similar in pedal feel to an act 2100...plus i'm running organic discs...which usually do fine to 500lbtq.

I'd rather overbuild the car and not worry about any issues...than have clutch problems later on down the line.

My next setup will be a new motor, hta35r, top mount, etc...but that isn't for another year or two.

 

sounds like you should have a nice setup, id go with something better to tune. Twindisc's are nice for pedal feeling and helps reduce driveline shock as well.

I would never push a 20g into the 400whp range, it just dosen't make sense. Im running a S258 in my full weight 90 tsi, im going almost 117mph babying the car. Im still on a stock transmission, and 3 bolt rear end. I cant wait to get my built transmission in, and launch the car with the antilag, should drop tons of my 330' time. My car could do a high 11 with some better driving and im around the 400-410whp range. As far as going 10's on a 20g or running low 12's on a 14B, again it just dosen't make sense.

Goodluck!

 

Thank you.Thats exactly what I'm talking about.Yeah,Switzer may have gone 10's on a 20G 8-9 years ago,but that was with a massive shot of nitrous and the car was not full weight.Not to pat myself on the back but I do know what I am talking about.I've ran through a stock pile of 14b's,16G's,20G's,T3/T4's,T4's and believe me I push my turbos to there full potentiol.If he's trying to go 10's a 20G is without a doubt NOT the best choice.I would still rather go with a T3/T4 or an FP.

 

Why use pump gas??? Ummmm,maybe because it's a street car.
You read too many far fetched quotes from DSM specialty retailers.
I'm not wasting my time arguing with you midship.You seem to know it all,so.......

 

OK,OK,you call TTR or BR and tell them you made 500whp on a Mitsu TD06-20G and see how hard they laugh.I've been down that road.It's not easy to make 497awhp on a Mitsu 20G without the aid of nitrous.
Thats that,bottom line.

 

I would have to agree with this. Also, the rare few who extract bigger numbers usually have more mods than they disclose...and many hours dialing in the setup.

I loved my car with an evo3 16g, and i'm sure i'll like it even more with this turbo. A good friend of mine (Lancerman) has run this turbo on his evo1, a 3071 on his evo1, a 16g on his evo1 and preferred this turbo (methanol, 26psi, made 405whp i think) but it was making too much torque (2.3stroker) and he kept destroying transmissions (he builds them for a living). If i'm not happy with this setup, i'll run something bigger. I've just never been a fan of excessive lag...especially on the street.

We'll see though...interesting discussion.

I'll post more pics later today. Just had a custom fitting made so i can use my current oil feed line w/ filter.

Pretty cool piece...local guy here made it for me.

 

here are a few pics.

Oil Feedline Fittings...fitting on right was made by local shop. Fitting on Left fits a 16g.


Second Pic is where i'm at...

 

The car looks great.
Nice little set up you got there.
Simple enough to enjoy everyday, but with enough muscle to break some hearts

 

Just doesn't make sense? ANYWAY go play with your over sized turbo. I rather have an under sized turbo peaking at close to 500whp then some overly huge turbo that you aren't going to use it's full capability to just to have excess wheel mass spinning.

You've lost the purpose of what turbo selection is the math and compressor maps there for you.

8-9 years ago isn't today where power extraction is real easy. 20g use to be thought as some track only race turbo.

You should talk to TheShodan on here he is a compressor designer going 400+ on a 20g turbo is nothing. Mitsubishi CHRA are made much better than Garretts


Why mod it ? It's a street car? Why make 300hp it's a street car?

What's your purpose for trying to question me with nothing?

You don't need nitrous, learn how to VB as well.


Completely understandable. Less thrust surface bearing wear on twin disc as well.

Just know what you're capable of that's all.

 

LOL,the further I read the harder I laughed.Just wanted you to know that.
Oh,and big turbo or not I'll still spank whatever you have.I doon't know who the **** you think your talking to?

 

You won't spank a thing and my username is right above my avatar and I am also in my avatar that's who I am.

Your GT42 is cute.