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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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I have a quick question, I'd measure it myself but my car is about 3k miles away from me in NY and I am in Florida for school so any help would be greatly appreciated. I have some money and I feel a new set of wheels is on order. A friend is selling a pair of 18x9.5 +12 offset.. My question is what is the lowest offset we can run on our car without running into clearance problems, or what spacers should I pick up? And about the size, they are big I know...I plan on rolling the fenders with a nice drop to come very soon after. Should make for a great looking dd. Thanks again in advance for anyone who helps.
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there is no way you will ever be able to fit 18x9.5+12 rims on our cars especially with a "nice" drop. But as far as how low of an offset we can run that depends on the wheel width. You can go really low if you want a really skinny tire. But a pretty common set up is 17 or 18x8 or 8.5 with like anywhere from +30-45 offset depending on if you like the wheels flush with the fenders or not.

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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I suggest sticking with 17" (purely my preference) wheels if you're going to go wider than 7.5". The widest I've seen is 17"x9.5" +30. The spec's you're looking at will push the outside of the wheel past the fenders. To stay flush, the offsets should be between +30-48mm like a1 mentioned.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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My origional plan was 17x8.5 but this is quite the deal on these wheels, brand new also. And I want the wheels to be flush with the fenders, If I remember correctly factory wheels have a +38 offset. God forbid I have to roll the fenders, give it a slight negative camber and run a real low profile tire with a little stretch to make it work for me... But if the offset is that far off I dont feel like picking up a 25 spacer. Spacers are cheating.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by McBitchin
... But if the offset is that far off I dont feel like picking up a 25 spacer. Spacers are cheating.
Stock 17's are +45. But at +12 offset is 350z territory.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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yeah I know haha, I think because of the price my buddy is sellin them for I may just pick them up, get some -25 spacers, -3camber, drop is only gonna be about 1.2" fenders rolled, stretch a 235 tire...make it work...and if I cant I'll sell them easily for what I pay if not more down here in Florida to one of my buddy's then go with the origional plan of 17x8.5's. But I'm just spit-ballin at the moment, I have the money right now, and wheels and a drop are a must in my opinion.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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well good luck with that. post pics if u get em on.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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the size tire you run will also make a difference in clearance as well. im running a 235x45x17 on 17x8 +30 and i will need to get my rears rolled. i think if i ran a 235x40 i would of been fine.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by McBitchin
get some -25 spacers,
WHAT? that would put the wheel at -13.....there is abosolutely no way in hell that will fit.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Wait, you want to add 25mm spacers to a +12mm offset wheel? Do I understand offsets and spacers correctly? Don't you put spacers on higher offset wheels?
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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Wait, you want to add 25mm spacers to a +12mm offset wheel? Do I understand offsets and spacers correctly? Don't you put spacers on higher offset wheels?
you put spacers on any wheel to push the rim out to get the look your trying to achieve. it doesn't matter what the original offset is.

I don't think the OP understands what adding 25mm spacers would do to a wheel thats already +12
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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That's what I thought. At first I didn't even know why he was talking about adding spacers to an already low offset wheel.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pd0019
the size tire you run will also make a difference in clearance as well. im running a 235x45x17 on 17x8 +30 and i will need to get my rears rolled. i think if i ran a 235x40 i would of been fine.
I ran 17x8 with 43 offset fine with 235/45/17. Lowered on HFP suspension, no rubbing & flush fitment. Its real hard to go larger than 8inch wide on our cars.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Lmao, if your wheel is already flush with the fender, you can't get a NEGATIVE spacer to bring it closer to the hub... That's one way to bend some laws of physics...
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^A negative spacer would go on the outside of the wheel.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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meant +25, finals week. I'm lookin for a crazy fitment, somebody said someone allready ran a 9.5" on a 17" wheel? and pictures, or a thread for it?
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by McBitchin
meant +25, finals week. I'm lookin for a crazy fitment, somebody said someone allready ran a 9.5" on a 17" wheel? and pictures, or a thread for it?
and like i said. you will not fit a wheel that is 9.5" wide with a +12 offset. adding 25mm spacers will put the wheel at -13. you can run it but you can't lower the car very much and the wheel's would stick out. it would look hella stupid
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nerdrum




17x8.5 +30. I believe these are the perfect spec's with respect to wheels for these generation civics IMHO. If you go with 17x9 you'll have to back off with the offset (lower) to clear the suspension I believe.


OP: you will need to new studs to accommodate 25mm spacers.

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my next set of wheels will be 17x9+45 with 255/40. someone else on the ocho has done 17x9+40 with a 245/45 tire and he said he's rubbing a little bit. But he has no camber kit so he could probably get rid of the rubbing with a little camber adjustment.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by K5^
17x8.5 +30. I believe these are the perfect spec's with respect to wheels for these generation civics IMHO. If you go with 17x9 you'll have to back off with the offset to about +32 to clear the suspension I believe.
that literally makes no sense. If you are having inside clearance problems, why would you go with a higher offset?
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Originally Posted by alexisthemovie
that literally makes no sense. If you are having inside clearance problems, why would you go with a higher offset?
Now that I look at it, that doesn't make sense to me either. But I would increase offset to prevent the wheel from protruding too far out of the fender. An increase from 8.5" to 9" while maintaining an offset of +30 will result the wheel to extend an additional 12.7mm out of the wheel well. I was trying to cut that down with the additional 2mm in offset.
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Originally Posted by nerdrum
yup. Since that pic I had to roll and pull the fenders a bit due to the function&forms coilovers settling a little more than I anticipated. In terms of offset, a really light fender pull should definitely give you plenty of room for some 17x9's at +30 or even 17x9.5's at 35-38 depending on strut clearance. I wish more people tried aggressive fitments on this car instead of bullshit rotas or fake garbage at 7.5 +45

Word of the wise though, definitely get rid of the rubber stripping off the front fenders or you will rub, theres plenty, plenty of room up front for as aggressive a fitments as you want, the main concern is how ballsy are you with camber:



This is where I pulled some of my logic from my previous post.

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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by a1staecksauce
my next set of wheels will be 17x9+45 with 255/40. someone else on the ocho has done 17x9+40 with a 245/45 tire and he said he's rubbing a little bit. But he has no camber kit so he could probably get rid of the rubbing with a little camber adjustment.
I plan on going with the same setup...I tried it out on teh front and it seemed to fit, but have no had a chance to do the same in the rear.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by a1staecksauce
my next set of wheels will be 17x9+45 with 255/40. someone else on the ocho has done 17x9+40 with a 245/45 tire and he said he's rubbing a little bit. But he has no camber kit so he could probably get rid of the rubbing with a little camber adjustment.

any pictures of said car?
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by a1staecksauce
there is no way you will ever be able to fit 18x9.5+12 rims on our cars especially with a "nice" drop.
Not true in the slightist, with the right fender roll and pull and negative camber setup it would work fine.

For a while I was going to go 17 x 9 +22 up front and 17 x 10.5 +12 in the back, I have the calculations laying around on how it would have fit, if I can find it i'll share.
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