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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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hi im doing this swap right now in a 91 accord I paid 1700 for the motor and a jdm lsd transmission.

but i dont know what im getting all i know is the motor and tanny are a higher perfomance then what i have stock.

could anyone help me out and tell me what i got going on?

i also have a catback exhaust and a cold air intake. nothing more then that on the stock F22a1.

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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Are you wanting to know the specs of the H22? It is a good swap. I'm not exactly sure what you are asking..What is the mileage on the Motor & tranny you got for $1700.
70k miles or lower & thats a helluhva bargain. Let me know where you got that deal!
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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sorry yes im wondering about the specs on the H22a.

and on the motor its sitting on 56k the tranny has 7k.

the deal came from a very good friend of mine here in washington state.

he is big into swaping in and out motors. the tranny is from his accord which had a h22a aswell but he blew it at a race reving up to 11k or thats what he has told me. the motor is out of a prealude dont know the year.

he told me that it has performance cams and heads and something else ill have to check again with him.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 03:06 AM
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So let me get this right. You went out and spent $1700 on an engine and transmission you have no clue about.

Roughly your looking at between 185 - 220 Hp & 156–167lb-ft torque (at the crank) That's all depending on what H22 you have blindly purchased. If you have no idea what is in the engine it's hard for any one here to guess what the specs are.

So really what's your question? The only one that's going to know the specs on your performance built H is the guy your buying it from? I'm sure he will be able to tell you all of the specs if he built the engine.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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i see hmm im really agrovated now that i didnt get more info on this.

but all i know that its not stock and he said it should be pushing about 260hp

ive tried to contact him in the past 2 days for more info since i have posted here and on another site but im getting thge same reactions.

so im really going to have to get in contact with him asap i mean my car is at risk of being unknowingly messed with darn it.

but ok now another question what could i do to my stock 260k milled F22a1 to rebuild it like what should i do to make it last longer if i ever need it again? which i know i will i want a little more kick from it but nothing to harsh that will damage the life span it still has?
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Why put money into the F if you're buying a built H?
Save the extra money for all the other parts you need to do the swap.
If you ever happen to need the F again, that's when you should be worried about how to build it... Or how you can get another H.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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I would keep the F22A1 and build it up over time. That way when the H22 goes you can have a nice & fresh better flowing SOHC F22A1 to swap in.

The F22A1 head has the ability to outflow the H with 300+ CFM/cylinder with a little head work. F22 Block is already iron sleeved so you can go boost or N/A high compression without any problems. Then if you really want to build a motor you can do anything to your F that you can do with the H.... Minus the DOHC valve train clutter of course.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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I would keep the F22A1 and build it up over time. That way when the H22 goes you can have a nice & fresh better flowing SOHC F22A1 to swap in.

The F22A1 head has the ability to outflow the H with 300+ CFM/cylinder with a little head work. F22 Block is already iron sleeved so you can go boost or N/A high compression without any problems. Then if you really want to build a motor you can do anything to your F that you can do with the H.... Minus the DOHC valve train clutter of course.
It takes more than a little work to get the Fhead to flow better than a STOCK H. It can be done for sure, but the same amount on a H head and... well.. you get the idea.


DOnt knock 2 cams.... I used to, but ive been turned out now....
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Do you have access to the stock flow rates for both the H and the F22? I know I've seen flow sheets on one of the Accord forums. It shows one of the stock F22A heads flowing better than the stock H. Maybe I'm wrong. But I thought that was why some drag racers use the F22A* head? I know there is one making 400+ whp with a N/A SOHC F22A

I have seen a few head porting websites boasting 300 CFM intake & 234 CFM on the exhaust side from the F22A,Then there are data listings of the K20 & K24's in the 300 cfm range. I haven't been able to find a 300 CFM flow sheet for an H as of yet.

Yes two cams are great they have there purpose..... I just don't see the need for two cams when you can get a grind with specific lifts and durations that can do the same thing with less moving parts
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Do you have access to the stock flow rates for both the H and the F22? I know I've seen flow sheets on one of the Accord forums. It shows one of the stock F22A heads flowing better than the stock H. Maybe I'm wrong. But I thought that was why some drag racers use the F22A* head? I know there is one making 400+ whp with a N/A SOHC F22A

I have seen a few head porting websites boasting 300 CFM intake & 234 CFM on the exhaust side from the F22A,Then there are data listings of the K20 & K24's in the 300 cfm range. I haven't been able to find a 300 CFM flow sheet for an H as of yet.

Yes two cams are great they have there purpose..... I just don't see the need for two cams when you can get a grind with specific lifts and durations that can do the same thing with less moving parts
Ive seen the flow rates before... Cant remember SPECIFICS, but as I remember the H flowed around 290.. The F22Ax does have better port geometry and BISI has proven it can be a viable power plant, But with the same amount of effort the DOHC heads DO flow more. Thats all I was saying.... Portwork (GOOD CORRECTLY DONE portwork) is not cheap either.. At all... Add to that the valvetrain to make it worthwhile and dollar for doolar the SOHC cam head isnt the best value... You know Im a huge fan of the ol SOHC, but the F22A heads do NOT flow close to the H22. Not stock.

Regardless Walking mother****ers in a SOHC and rubbing it in their face is a very cheap thrill... I USED TO LOVE IT... Theyd all ask H22??? Id be like nah, Single slam... SOmetimes I still Claim the SOHC to people I dont know... HAHAHAHAHA


It hurts feelings.

Although in the DOHC camp nowadays... I definately am a SOHC believa'
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