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can an AUTOMAtic transmisition be race prepaired for extrem abuse ?

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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i have a honda accord 1997...im planing to force feed that thing,,,,and autos on a front wheel drive isnt the strongest thing i know,,,but i dont want a manual swap,,,its not like i dont like manaul but im want the tranny to be upgraded...i wana seee how far it can take,,,
what i realy hate about my car is the wight this car have....underpowerd brakes,,,,underpowered engine,,,slugish transmission...(accord made between 1994 and 1997 are the worst when it comes to tranny)
since i wana rebuild it is there a performance upgrade,,,
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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I had done this on a 99 accord that I owen. It will be way cheaper to swap out to a manual tranny then to try and upgrade your auto. By the time you get the auto upgraded were you will need it to be you will have spent over double what you would on a manual swap.

The only reason that I even did it was to prove that it could be donel. Keep in mind that I re-build the tranny myself and had to replace the clutch pack's 3 times in 6mon. Along with modifying the valve bodys myself.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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yes it can. its not cheap though. i remember seeing a link on here but it was so long ago I don't remember the title. try searching for it. auto tranny etc. anything that will yield results for your answer. but there is a company that beefs up the auto tranny in which the thread had in it.but as mentioned it will be alot more than the manual swap. hope you have a nice bank account.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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ohh thanks alot,,,,,but i do need more info thu,,,like how much horspower it can take,,,methods and AND source of parts....such info well be greatly apprecaited,,,and thank you
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Ok.. I thought your keyboard was broken, I definitely see a few periods in there. Commas much?
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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never mind how i write,,,its my second language...
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Why rebuild an auto to handle tons of power when it's still not going to be as quick or precise as a manual? And, as mentioned before, swapping the tranny would cost less.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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cause here in UAE like most gulf countries (middle east) compact and midsize saloon comes in auto only...
(only trucks and commercail vans come in manual)if we see a manual accord then its difinitly imported elsewhere...so,,,i realy wana know how to improve an auto tranny....and for info sake,,,
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Well I guess I'd start here then:
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/hondaauto.shtml
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Pretty steep ^
It would probably cost less to import a manual, and it would probably still perform better than a built auto.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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thanksssssss a lot....to all off ya oh and specaily for you hight socity
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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I hope that has enough info, I know they have a forum on that site so there may be some dudes there that know enough to help you out.
Looks like it would be easiest to just buy the built auto they offer...
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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yes, it can.
Having it done in the United Arab Emerates may be somewhat problamatic (well, maybe not), but it can be done. There was a company in the Southeast USA area which was quite active with this. Let me see if I can find their URL for you.

There are these guys: http://www.importperformancetrans.com/hondaauto.shtml
and these: http://www.drivetrain.com/autotransoverhaulkits.html

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Why were there 2 threads made on this same lame topic?
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad_and_the_acc
Why were there 2 threads made on this same lame topic?
Probably to irritate people.......
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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yeah swap it to a manual... honestly for the price of an auto trans rebuild to with stand the boost your gonna spend way more money then just doing a manual swap...

plus cmon don't compare a honda to a gm... 4 bangers suck with auto transmissions i pretty much believe its pointless.
from the other thread...
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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hehe im hoping im not botherng anyone here......im tired of my auto tranny,,wish it can get any better,,,now i know it can be better then the stock rebuild,,,even just abit better would be nice

thanks alot to who ever helped,,sorry if i bother anyone here...

now ill be looking into those links...for the future project..

lets see....3550 dollars thats...oh ma lord 13 000 uae dirhams ? ouch that is alot..thats without the shippment..
secondary jop here i come....

ill look into thos..thanks P_adams..your a real friend..
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/hondaauto.shtml
http://www.drivetrain.com/autotransoverhaulkits.html

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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You're more than welcome here anytime (as is anyone)
Good luck with you're project

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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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Yeah, good luck dude. I still think the manny tranny is still the way to go, especially since you live in a country where no one else has one.
If you're gonna spend the coin, might as well spend it wisely.
The manual has four things going for it: affordability (compared to a built auto), reliability, performance, and (in your case) originality.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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Good luck with your build myfriend. I wasnt horribly bothered I just asked why 2 threads. Forgive me if I was being rude, lol.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad_and_the_acc
Good luck with your build myfriend. I wasnt horribly bothered I just asked why 2 threads. Forgive me if I was being rude, lol.
you called it a "lame topic," that's probably why people thought you were being rude.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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no problem no problem......

oh by the way i rebuilded the radaitor with new plastic caps,,,yeah,,,those were leaking like hell from the previeus accedent,,,it was kinda bended and got it strighted and new plastic caps and,,,,,i was kind hoping if i can fabicrate an aluminum radaitor cap for both upper and buttom side,,but we realy dont have that kind of shops,,,hmmmmmm

so far im thinking a remote turbo stile,,like the one used STS company,,that i dont need both the intercooler and turbo manifold,,good for 5PSI...
since the lowesr octan fuel here is 95octan,,,futher decreasing the chance of detonation along with low boost
i might be considering a rising rate fuel pressure regulator ...

i know some went as far as 10 PSI before a pistone or a connecting rod snaped,,,but i aint planing to do that,,,

so since i replaced the old F20b with a f22b (happend long time ago )
its not the f20 JDM with the blue valve cover...its somthing didnt come to the usa,,its a typical f22 with 2000CC,,,its sohc,,,non vtec...so its the slowest f seris engine ya gona see
it broke down due to a failed oil pump,,,starved and kappooof went to permanat sleep,,so i found a junk yard sulotion f22 with 60 000 kilometrs on it,,( about 37500 miles on it) took it for a bargin,,,so why not turbo it since its not that old,,,

things to over come :

1 - online order for an oil pum for scavenging the oil below sump level,,it way faar there
2 - locate a perfect size turbo charger,,,i woudner if i ca use the volvo 1.8T,,we have plenty of those here,,,
3 - rising rate fuel pressure rate regulator to adjust fuel inrichments
4 - BEEF UP the stupid auto tranny,,,,,or is the stock rebuid good enought for for 5PSI ? HMMMMMMM,,?....
5 - plumings and connectors,,
6 - if im not happy with the mechnical fuel inrichment device( if its not making air to fuel ratio) ,,perhaps a megasquirt,,its cheaper then motec (i found that we have a motec dealer here in ajman,,,IN AJMAN ? didnt see that coming i mean its not available in DUBAI,,BUT AJMAAAn ? (ajman = worst stat OF UAE) i dont belive it,,,,globalization i geuss AH AH AH AH,,,,tetteehhhh (jay leno show)

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by high_society
Why rebuild an auto to handle tons of power when it's still not going to be as quick or precise as a manual? And, as mentioned before, swapping the tranny would cost less.
actually an auto would be quicker and more precise. no error in shifting due to the driver. alot of drag cars use auto. usually v8s though.

CrazyFaizy. one thing to keep in mind is that your thirst for power will increase. 5psi isn't much. and no intercooler and no manifold won't happen on a higher booster car. you'd have to give yourself some growth room. or buy new upgraded parts when you want more power. its better to build moderately or high and just run lower the boost. that way you save money and time.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by flight50
actually an auto would be quicker and more precise. no error in shifting due to the driver. alot of drag cars use auto. usually v8s though.
You're right. But my personal feeling is that manuals offer the driver more control over the car. The driver can put shifts where ever he or she wants, depending on what type of driving they are doing.
Another plus to the manual is the relative ease of upgrading, and lower cost, compared to an auto. I respect the OP wanting to build a monster auto, that's cool! I'd like to see how it turns out. Based on my small amount of knowledge and experience, I would just prefer a manual over an auto.
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Check out a place called Dr.Evil Transmissions.

Case closed.
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