Well i just did the swap in my ef and everything was ok, till i discovered a sweet smell and lil white smoke coming from the front of the car, i opened the oil cap the first sight was there the milkshake, oil dipstick looked a lil weird, loss of coolant through the radiator, water in the tail pipe. Anyway i would like to know what would the consequences be after changing the headgasket if, only if the head didnt get warped? would that affect the performance of any other part?and have any other part to be replaced besides of all the gaskets around an all cuz i changed everything besides this one so, it ill last at least another year?

 

Sounds like it could be an incorrect head gasket, warped or cracked head, or some other damage between the cooling system and oiling system.

What was the initial problem? Did you change the gasket for preventive maintenance?

 

i guess i didnt explain myself right, went i said swap i refered as i just put a B16 in it and did change all the maintenance parts except for the headgasket, so when i start it everything was fine after 20 mins. so now that i know i have to change the gasket i wanna know what could happen after if the head is ok and didnt warped.

 

assuming the head is not warped
then replacing the headgasket wont cause any loss of power or any problems
heads usually do warp after being overheated though
so you should take it to the machine shop anyway

 

well ill check for warpness cuz since ive seen so many threads talking about just change the gasket and thats it without say anything to check about warp, i have a straight edge and gauge feeler so ill do that tomorrow, have it milled means changing time,pbly studs,timing gears and all of that right? how hard is to set those things?

 

you dont need new cam gears
at the most maybe a valve job
routine head gasket jobs include new water pump, timing belt and tensioner, oil pump

 

Ok well i started to take everything apart drain the oil and didnt find anything weird, drain the coolant and nothing they both clean then i stopped after taking the cams off, cuz the bolts that are holding the head are tighter that what they are suppose to(61ft-lb) i tried a torque wrench also a breaker bar and nothing and i dont want to break anything also my valve cover had a lot of that white stuff(milkshake) i d read an article where it says that it could be moisture trapped inside the engine due to dont warm the engine at regular temp and then turn it off or makin short trips wich i only have done the first one since i havent move the car cuz i just finished the swap, also found a lil leakage in on of the corner between the block and the head, what this could be?


I need help bad seriously, cuz i dont have time and much money to keep investing on this car if is not gonna be worth it.any comments,suggestions are welcome.Thanks

 

if its leaking then its the headgasket....only thing i can figure unless you got oil leaking elsewhere dripping there....

 

wtf i can't believe nobody else has nothing to say.Thanks ef9-b20!

 

no prob, you sure the headgasket was put on right? ive had someone put theres on upside down o.O'''' that could cause a seal issue, also are you using the old head bolts?? hey bro no prob i told ya id help ya haha

 

well see the fact is that i havent touch that gasket at all is the same old one that came with the engine though when i first had the engine it had a lot of oil sticked to the front of it so in my mind it was my first thought but somebody told me nah! they problably weren't as clean as u like to keep them and i said ok but since i dropped the engine and had it running never did more than 20 mins cuz of the white smoke coming out of the headers and that damn sweet smell so don't know i dont want to go that far and get stucked in between.

 

yeaaaa def headgasket my friend...:/

 

did you torque it rite, Honda also says not to use the same headstuds more than twice. on my d16a6 it was a two step thing, first torque ti 36 ft lbs the to 42 I think, and in a certain pattern.
Warping is allowed I think. but only a little.

 

why dont you just take the head off and see if there is something wrong?
where did this motor come from? some sort of jdm source or a local junkyard?

 

the small leak here you're seeing could possibly be from the plastic cam seal.

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=576

 

well i thought about the seal too but i took the cams off and yeah the seal was bad but i cleaned everything around of it and still leaking though



this is how the motor looked when i first got it



i got it from got-jdm, and they have have a six months warranty and everything but ive done take more than that cuz of work and all of the stuff that i did around.So i guess that the only way to find out is just take the head off

 

If it was me i'd send it back.

 

Like i said it has been more than the time that i had to make any claims plus they give warranty on headgaskets for only three six months is only internals warranty.This is the why:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/appearance-build-threads-122/ef-after-theft-recover-build-off-b16-rear-disk-brake-tuck-wire-tuck-etc-2408122/

 

I finally got the head off and nothing seems to be damaged, not even the gasket, so i checked for for warpness and nothing i mean it doesnt exceed the .002 that is suppose to and that was even in one single spot cylinders are fine head is fine no cracks well check the pics and tell me what u think. i guess i should've just take it to get test before to do all of this, oh well

 

did you do a compression test before taking your head off? A compression test will tell you if you have a blown head gasket. If you're compression was good all the way across, I think you should see near the 200 psi range and not a difference of 20 psi between any of the cylinders, if that's ok then your head gasket is good, your rings are good, and your valves are sealing good.
The sweet smell could be coolant burning off if you spilled a little bit while filling your cooling system. Also the oil down the front of the motor could simply be from the valve cover gasket. That's much more common than a leaking head gasket seeping oil.
If you haven't done a compression test, then that's too bad. If you're suspecting a head gasket problem, especially after overheating, then a compression test is the first thing to do. Your head gasket may have been fine and now you've spending money you don't need to spend.
I'm just telling you this for next time you run into a situation. Obviously you've already got the head off, so replace the gasket, as well as all other gaskets you had to take off (i.e. valve cover gasket, intake manifold gasket, exhaust manifold gasket, etc.) and make sure to get all your radiator and heater hoses tight. Hopefully you taking the head off has taken care of your problem. I would inspect it throuoghly for cracks though, a cracked head will cause coolant to leak into the cylinders and the white smoke affect.

Also another tid bit of info is after doing a compression test, if you do find one or more cylinders to be low on compression, you can to a leak down test. You need a tester for this and you may have to take it to a shop, but this test will pin point your leak. It'll either be a bad head gasket, bad intake or exhaust valves, or bad rings/cracked block. This test is awesome and can save you a lot of time and money.
Hope you get it fixed!

 

yeah i know is kind of late to think about that now, n i also hope and that will stop all of my problems, but i tell u what im gonna make sure that ill do it right the next time the right way thanks for the input. i dont know why im always rushing things when im not suppose to. Lol

 

on that last picture with the head off the block
piston #4 looks cleaner than the rest of them
that usually a sign of a blown headgasket
also theres a good DIY for a leak down tester on the winter isue of honda tuning

 

^^^ Yes there is and I'm gunna make me one of those! I'll let you guys know how it turns out!

And don't beat yourself up ef 991red that's how we learn. I learned to not drive my car that's over heating in the middle of summer because it WILL blow my head gasket. I KNEW my radiator was leaking, but I just HAD to go get my daughter. Sure I could hitch a ride from my family or a friend, but nope, I had to drive there myself. It blew and now I know that lesson. I also know how to pull a head off a 90 civic and put it back on. That's how we learn. By the way compression testers are like 60 bux at sears for a craftsman set and the leak down testers are more and require a compressor, but a compression tester will lead you in the right direction. Next time you'll get it right.
Good luck!
later

 

while the head was off you might just have a machinist look at it. i had a head that showed no cracks to the eye. but as soon as you torqued it down there was one in a coolant passage. depends on where the head got hot.