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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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is the harness the same for a 99 LS and a 95 GSR? i am getting complete black interior from a friends 95 GSR. is the dash harness interchangeable...or is it different? the dash is out from the GSR already so I want to make sure i can swap the dash in and out before taking the tan one out.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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i believe 95s are obd1 and your 99 is obd2 so youll have to switch the harnesses
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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i believe 95s are obd1 and your 99 is obd2 so youll have to switch the harnesses
being obd1 and obd2 doesn't have anything to do with the dash harness really. being obd1 or obd2 has to do with how the information gets to and from the engine and it's sensors but i don't think it has anything to do with the dash components.

however i don't know if they are 100% interchangeable. i don't think there would be too much of a problem or even a problem at all with the radio, climate control, or steering colum. i think the only problem would be with the guage cluster. again i'm not 100% sure on this but i thought i remember reading somewhere that the wiring for certain guage clusters was a little different. but that might only be true for specific non usdm clusters. anyone else care to confirm or deny?
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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well youre right efrue57. i should have stated that harnesses from 94-97 are different from harnesses from 98-01. this is because 98+ have different connectors for the cluster. either switch your harness or get a 94-97 cluster to match the harness.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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so it should be no problem to just swap the harness from my dash to the new one right? reason is i dont want to start taking apart my car until i know that it will work. my friend took out his dash with the climate control all connected but no radio, or cluster. so it should be pretty simple to just swap out to my harness right when the dash is out?


my friend took out his dash, so i'm not sure what i'm getting into yet....i heard the dash takes awhile to take it out. But I just want to get rid of my tan interior.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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i did a tan to black conversion and its no problem at all. switching the harnesses is very easy. replacing a dash is easy also.

since your friend left the climate control in, you need to unplug that and remove it before you switch the harnesses.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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alrite cool. me and a coworker will help me do it. my friends who have done it before won't have time but i want o get the black interior in before it starts to rain. im gonna start in the morning and hopefully be done in a few hours.

from what i understand as long as the air bags, steering column, is out of the way it should be no problem. the dash is hardest to swap in my opinion. the rest of the panels in the car i should be able to take care of if i can't finish.
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Just removed my dashboard for the 2nd time this past weekend to replace my heater core. It's not that hard. You need to remove:

- seats
- glovebox and support bar
- driver side lower panel and reinforcement bar
- left and right side vents (remove sunroof switch to get to the left vent's screw)
- center console
- radio
- emerg. flasher and defroster switch, which allows access to the screws holding the:
- climate control and center vents
- clock
- gauge cluster

Don't forget to disconnect the battery, and use the short connectors for the airbag harness. These are red connectors located inside the steering wheel and up under the passenger side airbag. Unplug the airbag connector, and insert this short connector to make sure things like static discharge don't accidentally set off the bag.

Remove the 2 nuts and 2 bolts holding the steering column up, and let it come down to the floor.

Then there are 6 bolts holding the dash. One in each end behind panel covers, one down by the hood release, one in the middle below the radio location, one behind the clock, and one at the lower right (probably was removed with the glove box support).

It's possible to get the dash out by yourself, but it's much easier with a helper. As you slide the dash straight out, just make sure no wire harnesses are caught on anything, and pull that joker out.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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thanks patrick...we'll be doing it this weekend or if not within this month. finals coming up so i'm not sure if i have time this weekend. the only concern is my dash harness which i will swap out and use my own.

everything that will be taken out will be swapped with black one. so no matter what everything is coming out of the car. carpet, dash, seats, panels, glove box, air bags, steering wheel. can't wait till i get the black interior.
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Originally Posted by supracrx
thanks patrick...we'll be doing it this weekend or if not within this month. finals coming up so i'm not sure if i have time this weekend. the only concern is my dash harness which i will swap out and use my own.

everything that will be taken out will be swapped with black one. so no matter what everything is coming out of the car. carpet, dash, seats, panels, glove box, air bags, steering wheel. can't wait till i get the black interior.
So if you swap the harness to the new dash, then the same harness stays with the car, and I wouldn't think there would be any issues.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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ok i'll do it by end of this month....just dont have time this weekend since finals are coming up. can't wait till black interior....

BTW how do u remove the piece for the sunroof...the sliding piece that covers the sunroof?
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EFRue57
being obd1 and obd2 doesn't have anything to do with the dash harness really. being obd1 or obd2 has to do with how the information gets to and from the engine and it's sensors but i don't think it has anything to do with the dash components.

however i don't know if they are 100% interchangeable. i don't think there would be too much of a problem or even a problem at all with the radio, climate control, or steering colum. i think the only problem would be with the guage cluster. again i'm not 100% sure on this but i thought i remember reading somewhere that the wiring for certain guage clusters was a little different. but that might only be true for specific non usdm clusters. anyone else care to confirm or deny?
yes, the cluster wiring is different, so the original dash harness needs to be used.


edit: forgot the op is swapping the harness between the dash's.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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hmm anyone know how to swap out the sunroof panel???? seems like some ppl say u have to take out the sunroof while others say ut ake off the headliner?
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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if you want to have access to the bolts of the sunroof, you have to remove the headliner which you also have to remove the quarter window garnish to get to. and to get to the quarter window garnish, you have to remove the rear side panels. at least that's what i went through to get the stuff swapped out for black and gray interior.
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^^^^ that is correct. When I was trying to track down water leaks, I had to remove my headliner. To do that, I had to remove all the side trim, the quarter window trim, the rear view mirror, and the sun visors to get the head liner out. After that, the sunshade should be readily accessible to be able to swap it out.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 07:27 AM
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There is a world of difference between the 98 and 95 dash harness. Don't interchange the two.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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^^^when u say dont interchange the two ? u mean don't swap it out? isn't it best to use my own harness.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Probably means don't try to use a 98+ dash harness w/ 94-95 components, or vice versa. You need to keep the correct dash harness with the car/engine/ECU, etc.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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yea i'm going to use everything from my car, just the skin of the dash. my harness will be swapped over...can't wait till i get the black interior in. BUT not looking forward todoing the work.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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hmm my friend took off the sunroof from the car i am parting out. he could not figure out how to take the sliding panel out....anyone else have experience with swapping that piece out instead of the entire sunroof?
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headliner has to come off
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
headliner has to come off

He's right...Once the headliner is out its literally a 5 minute job. I have never heard of anyone taking off just the glass piece, as I believe it is glued. Good luck!
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 05:31 AM
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I cracked my windshield when I was re-installing my dash.. they crack SUPER easy. be very careful.

I have a 94 GSR and installed a 96 dash.

Also, my turn signals did NOT work after my dash swap. I do believe there is a plug that is different.

Also, the passenger side airbag will not work: The plugs are different.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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cracked your windshield? dang man did you just slam that sucker up in there? "Git yo' *** up in theruh dashboard!!!"

I've had my dashboard off twice and never had a problem. There are brackets on each end bolted to the chassis that support the dashboard. It just slides out and then slides back on. It's really helpful to have a person at each end to help lift it up into place.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Nahh, just a lil too much pressure. I shoudl have dropped the steering wheel ALL the way down.

Hey, live and learn!
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