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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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How many of you are using solid rear strut with no springs? Just wondering if there are any cons to this?

Just to let people know this is a full drag car and will never see the road. I have been fabricating lots of parts for my car recently so just trying to gather new ideas.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Without weight transfer the car will be a terror and most likely go nowhere fast. The initial movment of the car off the line would be much worse. I have an idea theoretically of what would happen, but I'll save it lol
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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i would think any sane person is not doing this, as it is ILLEGAL in NHRA rule
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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My old suspension from my crx around 96-97 i think. haha dont remember how long ago. 1.69 60 ft in a 130hp car. took pics of it when we were cuting up the car a couple years ago.

I don't recommend doing this. There weren't much choices and information as we have these days. This was just a budget fix for a little while.

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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by teefunk01
How many of you are using solid rear strut with no springs? Just wondering if there are any cons to this?

Just to let people know this is a full drag car and will never see the road. I have been fabricating lots of parts for my car recently so just trying to gather new ideas.
I think i'm going to this. I'm also planning on strapping the front end. Yeah, if I can get some throw-away rear shocks, then i'm gonna cut the ends off and get the correct length steel tubing and make a solid shock. It's probably got to be quite thick. I'm guessing over .100 wall thickness. Maybe even thicker. Not sure yet.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Get a good front and rear suspension. Even a $500-600 setup will do just fine.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ExospeedAMcrx
Get a good front and rear suspension. Even a $500-600 setup will do just fine.
My car looks like it's almost trying to do a rwd wheelie when I launch. ****ing insane. Stiffer rear springs? May be my next purchase for the car. Eventually though, I would like to go to the extreme of a solid rear strut. Just to try it.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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You're just going to unsettle the chassis if you do that, they make 1400lb springs. There is a reason people don't use them.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ExospeedAMcrx


My old suspension from my crx around 96-97 i think. haha dont remember how long ago. 1.69 60 ft in a 130hp car. took pics of it when we were cuting up the car a couple years ago.

I don't recommend doing this. There weren't much choices and information as we have these days. This was just a budget fix for a little while.
Answer this though. Have you gone, with the same amount of horsepower, any faster to the 60ft and 330ft with a non-solid rear shock? My motor doesn't make much power. I'm not trying to argue. Instead, i'm just thinking that there may be something to it for low horsepower combinations. Maybe. LOL

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Originally Posted by rota92
You're just going to unsettle the chassis if you do that, they make 1400lb springs. There is a reason people don't use them.
Define unsettle in reference to your example.

Also, are there 1400lb springs that will fit factory shock spring seats?
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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No, they make them that stiff for coilovers which would need to be properly valved in order to work. Putting anything besides a street/drop spring on a stock strut is asinine.

Unsettle meaning that the shock of the car moving off the line will not be absorbed by the rear and re-transfered to the front of the car through proper compression and rebound adjustments. Don't try to reinvent the wheel here lol
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rota92
Without weight transfer the car will be a terror and most likely go nowhere fast. The initial movment of the car off the line would be much worse. I have an idea theoretically of what would happen, but I'll save it lol
what is your idea of what would happen?
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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It could be a few things, but they are all ideas that include shocking the tires, breaking stuff, wheel hop, the car acting badly when shifted etc.

I can't see bothering with this, no body makes a solid strut kit and that should be a good reason to forget about it and buy something nice
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Tried that in 96 with the Hotshot N/A Integra 267whp and was not a fun launch.. Car shook so bad that it made me see double.... Very hard on the chassis.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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seriously i got a set of aerospeed coilovers and kyb shocks and live in springfield what kind of car are you putting them in? you wanna drive u can have em cheap,lol i took them out of a 00 civic coupe, they are like new 2000 miles !! swapped em out 4 a set of omnipower drag launch coilvers!!
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by civicxpress
seriously i got a set of aerospeed coilovers and kyb shocks and live in springfield what kind of car are you putting them in? you wanna drive u can have em cheap,lol i took them out of a 00 civic coupe, they are like new 2000 miles !! swapped em out 4 a set of omnipower drag launch coilvers!!
Where in any of my posts did I say it was a money issue? I actually made the thread getting insights to get some ideas and in this case wasnt a good one. Im not afraid to ask oppinions from my peers ... "omnipower drag launch coilvers!!" it is then LOL
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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I'm gonna step out and suggest progress over omni-power, if you would like some more info and the contact info for the guys at progress feel free to PM me and I can give you any input you'd like on their product and have them set something up for ya!

::I'm not a dealer::
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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Off topic...rota92...any current pics of your car?
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Haha maybe I'll put some teasers up, but should be at NRG this weekend to get some other pics too
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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Integrawow and Teefunk. Youre going to get the similar results as a stiffer spring. You can check Eibach.com for the race springs they offer. You can buy the spring by the rate/diameter/and length. The spring rates go by increments of 50lbs from 100 to 1000lbs from what I remember. Theyre actually not that much and you can get them to either be a replacement to a current coilover setup or just regular shocks.
The price range isnt that bad. From about $70-90 per spring from what I remember. If you guys have a hard time finding them, let me know. I get those custom rates often for my customers.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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Their valving will still be a **** poor mismatch unfortunately, especially if they end up going uber stiff.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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ya but safer than a solid rear strut, you know what I mean. of course the best is a full suspension setup to suit the needs of the car. these guys are looking for a cheap quick fix and the solid rear strut is not the way. Done that, would never do it again.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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It seems as if the rear solid strut would tear the mounts to hell and back.
Just my thought on it.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ExospeedAMcrx
ya but safer than a solid rear strut, you know what I mean. of course the best is a full suspension setup to suit the needs of the car. these guys are looking for a cheap quick fix and the solid rear strut is not the way. Done that, would never do it again.
Like I stated before it wasnt about a cheap fix or cheap solution. Money is not the issue for this how come everyone assumes this? I have no problem buying aftermarket suspension I was just under the impression no movement in the rear would have been better. It was simply an idea that the rear being solid would get more traction but I get Ryans points about it creating the intial movement and between gearshifts worse than having a little movement.

And for those wondering I have tanabe one piece coilovers in there right now and just going to swap them out for something with stiffer rates.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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If you want no movement in the rear.
Look into wheelie bars.
Or valving your struts to do what you need to do.
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