Hi,
well my trailing arm bushings are gone. I'm looking to replace them, but need some feedback on the different types of bushings out their, supposedly, Some are not for street use? Don't get why.
Anyways, here are the ones I'm looking at;
http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewP...idproduct=2940

http://www.suspension.com/prothane-civic.htm

Any advice on which I should get? I don't want to buy something that'll make my car dangerous to drive.
Thanks.

 

no question, OEM.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/rear-trailing-arm-bushing-rta-part-number-1960010/

poly doesnt work properly. spherical is going to wear out too quickly for the street.

OEM lasts and is the best for street.

 

and at $30 per side its hard to beat the price too

 

so the ES ones really bind? I can't buy those anyways because you need to remove the bracket... Don't know how I would do that. How much did those cost you by the way?

 

Listen to the what tyson and crx jimmy said. I installed and rode on the ES bushings in my previous rex and the trailing arms actually slid out along that center piece because there's nothing to hold the arms still.

 

Yep, spherical don't last and are hurtful to your butt >_<
The poly and es bind and suck
I think Mugen is my best bet guys, anyone know where I can get them?
Does king motorsports carry them?

 

king has them, just ordered them;
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/category.aspx?cat=12
suppose to be just like stock except stiffer

 

good job.

you just overpaid for OEM bushings.

thanks for listening.

 

They're not better?

I'm going to try that engine mount trick first before I replace them, see if that works. Window weld.

 

damn, i didn't know es bushings were so unpopular. i've had them on 3 of my cars with 4 sets of trailing arms and have never had a problem with any of them and have actually been very pleased with them. there was a drastic reduction in the "sloppyness"(sp) of the rear end. granted i was going from worn out torn bushings to brand new ones but none the less they felt awesome.

the only thing i have to say in regards to your post, crxsirg, is are you sure you got the right ones for you crx? it has always been a pain in the a** for me to get that center shaft in because it was such a tight fit.

And just for i guess you would call it verification purposes, i had them on 1 crx for over 2 years and never had any problems with the trailing arm sliding or any wearing issues. then i have them on another crx i got and they have been on there for 4 years and are still in good condition. then i got an ek and put them on my 4 lug rear trailing arms and rode on them for about 2 years with no problems. and now i have them on my 5 lug rear trailing arms for about 1 year with no problems.

I don't know maybe it's just all personal preference but i like them. but you can never go wrong with OEM reliability. I give a thumbsup to both.

 

I saw some made by Noltec Suspension. They are made from polyester which (they say) is softer than polyeurathane but harder than rubber. They also have both sizes the 80mm and 85mm. Does anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.noltecsuspension.com/apt.php

 

Yeah I had the right ones but the arms definitely slid outwards. But, by the same token, I knew a guy on another forum that had a good experience with them. However, after just a little thought it really doesn't make sense to give the arm even the freedom of movement along that center piece when it wasn't like that from the factory, at least that's my opinion

I was actually going to post about the Noltec asianflava. So far I haven't heard of anyone trying them out...at least not yet in the states. The last I checked, one had to phone the US distributer to buy those, and they are very very expensive compared to the $60 total for 2 pristine OEM ones.

 

well u know what they say u can lead a horse to water but u cant make him drink!

 

so the decision is that energy suspension bushings are no good?

 

yea, the metal bracket inside isn't one with the bushing. I think that's the problem, you can replenish yours with polyurethne from home depot or window weld t an auto parts store, or buy mugen ones.
Though the window weld stuff seems to work best for your dollar.

 

i dont really understand why it would slide out on the metal part that goes through the bushing.
i guess i just dont understand why the trailing arm would move in that sort of direction when the upper/lower rlca's and the towe adjuster should pretty much keep it in check

 

its not the first time ive heard of it, but i dont think its common. it is however always possible in its inherent design.

but thats not the real issue with poly. its that the design of a poly bushing only allows the bushing to rotate in one axis. nearly all the bushings in the suspension must allow movement in more than just the primary axis of rotation. rubber allows for that elastically, poly doesnt. and when poly gets heated up (due to friction) and stretches, it remains stretched which means theres constant play.

it does happen. but its not to say that poly bushings or even jsut the trailing arm bushing will cause your car to fall off a cliff. the car, and the suspension, can still function. i just dont think it will function better than if it was rubber. especially for the street, poly isnt a suitable choice. its just way too stiff. stiff isnt always better.

it seems its more attractive for ppl to buy simply because theyre cheaper, and they come as a "complete" kit. theyre no easier to install tho. and id rather spend the money on new OEM control arms that come with NEW bushings already pressed in. worth the time and money to me.

 

wow..........this is probably the first thread where i have seen people diagree but still no sh*t talking has been involved. and pretty much everyone that has posted has had at least somthing to say that is somewhat intelligent. honda-tech must be evolving.

<------- *sheds tear*

 

Honda trailing arm bushings and the Mugen bushings are almost exactly the same. The original OEM bushings were not as good. Mugen came out with a new design and harder durometer rubber then Honda did the same thing.

As for replacing the trailing arm bushings, go with the OEM and save the coin.

 

Just got my Noltec bushings, I saw the box right before I left for work. I'll post pics when I get home. They are firm but they aren't as firm as polyurethane.

 

I got them from eBay. Yes, they were more than stockers, but I figured it was worth a try since no one had tried them out yet. The old ones that were installed on my arms were odd, one looked OK but the other one was cracked to hell.