Dyno Sheet inside, 357whp @ 19psi, F22 SOHC. Room for more?

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Default Dyno Sheet inside, 357whp @ 19psi, F22 SOHC. Room for more?

i finally had the car dyno tuned, it made 357whp at 19psi, 94 pump gas. I had issues with hondata boost controller, i would like to see 400whp. The dyno used was dyno dynamics, which i have been reading is really good and acurate? The tuner that tuned my car is considered really conservative by everyone around my town. I understand he doesnt want to have any blown motors on his hands, but im pretty sure my setup should be good for 400whp, probably 23psi. He says he doesnt want to go past 19psi without meth injection....here is a quick rundown of my setup;

- F22A6 SOHC, 91 accord
- Stock sleeves bored 85.5mm
- Wiseco 8.5:1 pistons, Eagle H beam rods
- built head (springs, retainers, oversized valves)
- ARP main and head studs
- ACL rod and main bearings
- OBX Ramhorn manifold
- 38mm tial with 10psi spring
- Delta 260 cam
- T3/T61 T04S COVER, STG 3 65MM WHEEL, .63 A/R


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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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tq was close to hp thats what i like about a f22
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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isn't there a better head that can be swapped on this engine?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by spoolin turbo s
isn't there a better head that can be swapped on this engine?
thats prolly the best head
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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id think ur close to the limit of the sleeves in th engine, to try and push any more out of it and still have it be reliable
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Man with that much tq that car should be a fun ride!!
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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awesome setup...

i haven't got enough knowledge to give any advice on it--- but i would like to request some vids of that car in action--- sounds like a blast!
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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I could put an H22 head on there, DOHC, Vtec, would be a better head. But i bought this head already built for a killer deal so i went with it. I've been reading the Dyno Dynamics usually is pretty low on whp numbers. I know 400whp is pretty safe on stock sleeves, but that could be 400whp on a dynojet. So im gonna take the car with this exact same setup (except new boost controller) and see what it hits on a dynojet, the car will always be tuned on the dyno dynamics tho. Real power teller is 1/4 mile anyways Cant wait till the track is open.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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Hey nice set up.

btw H22 head does not flow as well as an F22 head stock for stock.Thats why Bisimoto uses it. Anyone Correct me if I am wrong.

And it cannot bolt onto a sohc F22 block also, only to an H23 block.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:36 AM
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did wayne at G5 tune this for you??
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by oem_dc2
Hey nice set up.

btw H22 head does not flow as well as an F22 head stock for stock.Thats why Bisimoto uses it. Anyone Correct me if I am wrong.

And it cannot bolt onto a sohc F22 block also, only to an H23 block.
both wrong
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Very nice, sounds like a good number for a conservative pump gas tune up. What turbo are you running?

Probably have some more in it for sure even on pump but if your tuner does not want to push it, probably better to do what he feels comfortable with.

In your lighter 4th gen chassis should run pretty good.

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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ITR-EKcoupe
did wayne at G5 tune this for you??
hey yes he did good guy

Ya i think im gonna hit a dynojet and see what numbers i get and than go from there, the car is a lot of fun already, and it is my daily driver and i beat on it everyday. So reliability is crucial to me, so ill probably stay at this power level.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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have you ran it down the 1/4 mile? i'd be curious what MPH you hit.

on a stock f22a1 , doing the math from a 125 MPH run, i'm making somewhere from 375-400 crank HP...who knows though. .these engines can take it (i'm running the same head with a bisimoto cam/springs)

the sleeves are thick ,and should do fine without any detonation. might wanna put some race gas in for extended beatings though.

good numbers man...
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Just check with your dyno shop to see if the output of the Dyno Dynamics dyno has been altered or not. Naturally they will sit anywhere from 13-20% lower than what a Dynojet reads. I personally had to adjust mine to read similar(but still lower) than the local dynojets because even grown men who dont see 200whp from their b-series n/a builds would get upset. Its just a number.
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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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NIce work. Id push for 400... Just use some good gas.... Love for the F from a man with an H... ALWAYS will be a special place in my heart for the ol sohc. Tq falls off bad... Id look into where your flow restriction is.

Im curious as to what snail youve got on it... Specifically ex turbine/ wheel size.



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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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x2 still curious about the turbo?

also I think with the dyno dynamics that you can put into a mode which will show the correction, temp, etc... that way to have it all on paper when you ran. cause unfortunately unlike some other dyno's the DD can be made to read all over the place. Control X and pop in a correction factor is all it takes to make your numbers change.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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It is so great to see some nice numbers from F22 builds. Keep up the great work!
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ashb82
tq was close to hp thats what i like about a f22
get a custom intake manifold.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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which eagle h beams are you using? did you have the wrist pins moved up on the pistons to use h22 rods?
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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I'm usually one to pull for underdogs, however... It may be a built head, but with less than 2k of powerband its not much help.

I'd say you have three options - upgrade the intake manifold (custom if you have to!), upgrade the turbo, or get a DOHC head. At least one of the three is a major issue, since you're spooling so late for a 2.2L, but droping torque off like its going out of style. It could be possible the cam's too big, but usually turbo Honda's don't have problems with a reasonable amount of overlap.

BTW what turbo is on there? Exhaust? Something doesn't seem right.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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with less boost i've got a lot more powerband than he has. dont have a dyno plot of it, but will shortly

i'd imagine its either the exhaust or intake manifold, or both. . i've got a REALLY good manifolds, and smallish turbo. ,
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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what size turbo is this
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Do you have the manifold braced?
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by raceACCORDingly
which eagle h beams are you using? did you have the wrist pins moved up on the pistons to use h22 rods?
Yes h22 rods pistons custom made by raceeng.

Originally Posted by HiProfile
I'm usually one to pull for underdogs, however... It may be a built head, but with less than 2k of powerband its not much help.

I'd say you have three options - upgrade the intake manifold (custom if you have to!), upgrade the turbo, or get a DOHC head. At least one of the three is a major issue, since you're spooling so late for a 2.2L, but droping torque off like its going out of style. It could be possible the cam's too big, but usually turbo Honda's don't have problems with a reasonable amount of overlap.

BTW what turbo is on there? Exhaust? Something doesn't seem right.
I dont have the specs at this moment on the turbo, my tuner ordered it for me, i will get them tommorow for sure. Exhaust is full 3" turbo back, no cat, 1 resonator, magnaflow muffler.
The cam is pretty close to stock, its a delta 260 re-grind. The intake manifold was extrude honed (like a liquid port and polish, cost the guy i bought it off $500), IABs disabled open all the time. The head I wouldnt mind upgrading, however if i make 400whp on my SOHC and than upgrade to DOHC and make 430+, id have to turn the boost down to save my sleeves? or will it just give me a better powerband.

Originally Posted by ashb82
what size turbo is this
Dont have the specs at the moment, will get asap!

Originally Posted by deeweezy187
Do you have the manifold braced?
I do not have the OBX turbo manifold braced, or are you talking about my intake manifold? because i actually dont have that braced either....
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