i find this pics in another tread

pushroad suspension???

 

anyone?????

 

What is your question?

 

the suspension push rods is usually in formulas, never seen in a honda

This suspension really works?

who manufactures or sells?

I've built for suspensions formula sae with double wishbond push rods and if actually works for DC4 to a circuit or solo-x, I would venture to manufacture

any experience???

 

hmm interesting. I've seen an EG having something like that in rear inside the trunk.

even if they work, it is pointless to have them verticle like that. Formula cars have their suspenstion on side ways (horizontally).

 

You can change the bell crank torque curve with that set up... if you had different bells to choose from, and thats not a bad thing. I think it could have been executed better... but the idea is nice.

One so inclined could actually probably BORROW bell cranks from the motorcycle community to retro fit in that spot.


And it doesn't matter in which direction or plain the linkage and bell lies.

Here is a simulator for you...
Bell Crank

OP... how did you determine the crank length and offset? those are two of the most tunable and beneficial parts to doing this set up. As a matter of fact the more I look at your set up the more it looks neutral and centered... that's of little benefit, it needs to be offset and the length needs to be control carefully

This one offers different mount locations for different tunings...[IMG]

http://shop.artspeedequip.com/images/DSC00688.JPG[/IMG]

It's awesome to see people thinking outside the box... you've made me rethink now

 

interesting, I've never seen that setup. do you have any pics of inside the wheel well?

 

Which is entirely a packaging issue, i.e. the springs / dampers take up space that is needed for the driver's legs (mostly), and the car body needs to be more or less a certain shape for aero reasons, so the springs / dampers get crammed in wherever they least compromise these other requirements.

Beyond the possibilty of being able to change the leverage ratio (i.e. change the basic effective spring damper rate) and force gain / loss with suspension motion (i.e. introduce a 'progressive' rate to both the spring and damper), I can't see a lot of point in going to all that trouble, but it does look nice...

 

On a car like a Honda with a large vertical spindle, yeah that setup probably isn't worth it.

But on cars with completely in-wheel spindles and upper and lower control arms, having a setup like that may allow wider tires to be stuffed under the fenders.