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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Hey everybody. I have recently been looking into buying an HID kit along with some projection headlights. the only issue here is a lack of $$$. i was wondering if this combo would be worth the money or if it would just look like complete ****, blind people, and be a waste.

i want some of the Xenon 12000k HIDs, the ones with the purple tint.

heres the hard part... finding cheap, well functioning projector headlights. i was looking into this pair http://www.neweggmall.com/Product/20...s-_-2001870590

would these headlights do any good or would they be a waste? im trying to spend no more than $200 on the headlights which i know is ridiculous but im poor at the moment and i just want a decent set, not some $700 imported JDMs.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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what you should do is this, take your stock headlights and black them out so they are identical to those cheap pieces of **** except not shitty like those ones in the link. Buy you hid's ($70) and buy some projector lens from a tsx or something. The smart thing to do would be to go to a junkyard and find a car thats headlights have projectors in them. Take them out and custom fab them into your oem headlights. You now have blacked out, real projector, hid headlights. All for around $200.
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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if i go to a junk yard can i just pick any car with projectors and retro fit it to my lude or does it have to be a cirtian make or model? also, for a noob car modifier what are the chances that i will actually succeed in the whole black out and retrofit thing? i feel like i dont know enough about it and would mess it up
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 03:44 AM
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12k ?? ... purple tint ?? ... do you know how to spell Rice ? ... anything over 6k is stupid, you lose light output the higher the degree of bulb. The junk yard idea is a horrible idea. If you want an HID Retrofit done right, the first step is source you a projector set that is known to function well ..not just anytype of junkyard deal. Second be prepared to get inside your OEM or JDM headlights and custom fit those projectors on. That link is the gayest thing you can buy for your 'Lude. Research, I don't think you're ready for this type of job yet. And don't forget about wiring these to a power and switched ground source, it's not at all as simple as wiring to existing headlight wiring, Don't do that. Search. ..12k is retarted, purple is gay.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 05:54 AM
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How is my idea horrible? Finding headlights that are in mint condition with REAL projectors is the exact same as buying $300 projectors off ebay from the same cars. It is a cost saving method that works. Wiring for Hid's? Since when is their wiring? They are all plug and play and if you are not buying plug and play you are wasting your time.

To the OP, i will find a link i know of that has detailed pictures, step by step on how to actually open the headlights up, paint the housing black, install the new projectors, seal the projectors preventing fogging, and re-seal the headlights. It also includes steps on how to polish the headlights to remove any scratches from them.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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Wiring for Hid's? Since when is their wiring? They are all plug and play and if you are not buying plug and play you are wasting your time.
Really-? Rethink your statement. It's plug and play only between the Ballast and the Ignitor. A Retrofit-HID setup has to have it's own positive wiring going to an independant relay, fuse, and then to battery. Ground wiring is usually (but not always) connected to your switched ground for Low-beam headlight harness. Wiring gauge size is also important to consider for a proper Retrofit-HID setup. ..If you plug your ballast postive end to your existing factory halogen harness, you are going to have a fire hazard. ..Now explain to me your interpretation of Plug'n'Play..
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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You should really rethink yours. You buy a plug and play kit designed for the bulb kind that will fit the projectors. It is plug and play for litterally everything. My last 2 sets of hid's have been completely plug and play. With projectors the only difference would be the bulb type which is as simple as choosing the one that fits.

By Plug and play i mean you litterally plug the ballast in, and the other connector plugs directly into the factory headlight connector. There is not splicing, no grounding, nothing but plug and play. It takes litterallyl 2 minutes to do, 5-10 your first time.

You are making it seem alot harder than it really is. None of those steps are involved when it comes to a plug and play kit.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...=286267&page=3

It starts on page three and ends on page four. That is how easy doing this is.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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^^ That is a pretty sweet write-up. What you explained earlier as far as plugging your ballast to existing factory wiring harness is not safe. It's doable and many people do just that, but not safe in my book. I'de like to have a peace of mind about wiring issues under my hood, and a proper setup is to run your ballast through it's own independent setup. With that said, to each their own.. there is the right way to do this and the short-cut way.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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I really would not call it the short cut way. It is completely safe with the proper rubber coverings so you don't just have the 2 connections dangling, and the majority of hid kits are designed to be run that way. I don't think companies would last very long if they were setting cars on fires all the time. I have yet to hear of someone's car igniting in flames due to their hid's.

Anyway, lets just agree to disagree. The OP has info on both ways to do that and a great write up to help him out. Hopefully he decides to put some effort in and follow the write up rather than buy those ebay projectors.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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well, you bastards talked me into a project thats far out of my capabilities atm. i guess i will start doing some hardcore research and see what i can learn before ordering parts, buying stuff, and sawing up my headlights.

if i blackout my stock headlights and retrofit them do you think i can still make them look decent? will it mess with my light output having the stock headlights?

another question, i watched set of 4 videos on youtube about retrofitting and this guy made it look insanely hard. he baked plastic and made his own shroud and all that crazy stuff. is all that necessary?

the reason i want 12000k HIDs is because i have a purple lude and i think the combo would look good. i would consider 6000k or 8000k if the light output were much better but the 6000k only put out 220 more lumens than the 12000k. is there a way to get the purple/blue tint without sacrificing light output?

i found this chart regaurding different temp bulb / light output ratios.
Bulb Temperature
HID Lumens
Color
3000K
2950 lumens
Yellow

4300K
3200 lumens
White with slight yellow

6000K
3140 lumens
White starting to look blue

8000K
3100 lumens
Blue with a hint of purple

10,000K
2950 lumens
Blue to Purple

12,000K
2920 lumens
Purple

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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i ran 6000k and it was purply and i really liked the light output. This time i am going to probably run 4300 though because they are like flashlights and still extremely brite (more white)

Someone else on preludepower.com did a oem headlight retrofit and it turned out great. He did the black painting as well. You just need to make sure you don't paint over the reflective material. Also make sure you black out your corner lights as well or it will look funny.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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well i dont plan on getting bi-xenon HIDs because i really dont need the high beams. because of this, wouldnt i be able to basically paint over the entire headlight? wont i just need the space for the projector to fit and send out the light?
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