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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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does Greddy Extreme Timing Belt fit? im pretty sure it does, i just wanted clarify

http://www.modacar.com/products/Acur...ELT/belts.html
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyrocksursox
does Greddy Extreme Timing Belt fit? im pretty sure it does, i just wanted clarify

http://www.modacar.com/products/Acur...ELT/belts.html
The Greddy you linked is for the B18C GS-R VTEC engine, which is NOT the same as the B18B belt.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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yes it will work
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:56 AM
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well if it doesn't fit, what one do you recommend?
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyrocksursox
well if it doesn't fit, what one do you recommend?
OE Genuine Honda/Acura part number 14400-P7J-004. IMO there is no need for a "race" T-Belt.

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yes it will work
Actually NO the one he linked will not work because it has 126 teeth (GS-R/ITR belt has 126 teeth) while the belt he needs has 125 teeth.

So are you just guessing it will work? If he were to use the GS-R/ITR belt on his LS it would have too much slack.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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thanks for the help B18C5-EH2

btw is there a website link for it?
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2

Actually NO the one he linked will not work because it has 126 teeth (GS-R/ITR belt has 126 teeth) while the belt he needs has 125 teeth.

So are you just guessing it will work? If he were to use the GS-R/ITR belt on his LS it would have too much slack.
but wouldnt he be able to if he used vtec pumps (oil/water)? just to clear that up lol
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyrocksursox
thanks for the help B18C5-EH2

btw is there a website link for it?
You can buy it from any local Acura or Honda (fits B20 equipped earlier CR-Vs) dealerships, or check any online discount Acura/Honda parts dealers.



Here is the link to Majestic Honda where you can buy the belt. If you're replacing the timing belt I would also very strongly suggest replacing the:

Water pump
Timing belt tensioner
Cam seals
Front crank seal
Drive belts
Valvecover gasket
Spark plug tube seals

And also check the exhaust cam plug on the passenger side of the cylinder head - if it's leaking it's only two more bolts to replace it while you've got the valvecover off too.

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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ltrkstr2k
but wouldnt he be able to if he used vtec pumps (oil/water)? just to clear that up lol
First of all the oil pump has nothing to do with the timing belt. The gear that the belt ride on behind the crankshaft pulley is just a gear that slips over the crankshaft.

Secondly I don't understand why someone would want to try and hodge-podge the belt and water pump set-up just for the sake of having a pretty blue timing belt. Besides if someone is bent on having an aftermarket belt I'm certain someone, probably even Greddy, makes one specifically for the LS/B20 in the 125 tooth variety.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:53 AM
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then isnt there a difference with the vtec water pumps. dont they have more teeth than a ls/b20? and wouldnt that be the difference with the timing belts? just to clear all this up.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ltrkstr2k
then isnt there a difference with the vtec water pumps. dont they have more teeth than a ls/b20? and wouldnt that be the difference with the timing belts? just to clear all this up.
Okay first of all there are two different LS pumps. PR4, which is 95 and older. These have an extra bolts on them and do not interchange with 96-up blocks. Then there's the P75 which dimensionally looks the same as the VTEC pump, but with less teeth.

Secondly physically (I know because I just ran back to my parts department and compared all three B series water pumps, genuine Honda parts) the way the LS and GS-R pumps mount is the same (except for the older PR4 pumps) but the GS-R pump has 22 teeth while the LS only has 19 teeth - that's THREE teeth difference.

So again why guess when Honda already gives us the right combination to start? You want to try a belt with an extra tooth with a water pump with three extra teeth?

I wouldn't.

BTW:

The crank gear will also play a role in belt tension as well, but I don't have those to compare. Really if someone is doing a belts and waterpump job on an engine he needs to order it for that exact engine. It just makes sense.
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by B18C5-EH2
You can buy it from any local Acura or Honda (fits B20 equipped earlier CR-Vs) dealerships, or check any online discount Acura/Honda parts dealers.



Here is the link to Majestic Honda where you can buy the belt. If you're replacing the timing belt I would also very strongly suggest replacing the:

Water pump
Timing belt tensioner
Cam seals
Front crank seal
Drive belts
Valvecover gasket
Spark plug tube seals

And also check the exhaust cam plug on the passenger side of the cylinder head - if it's leaking it's only two more bolts to replace it while you've got the valvecover off too.

the exhaust cam plug is that near the spark plug box?
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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I believe the timing gears are the same.
If you really want to run a vtec belt, you could use the gsr waterpump...
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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where is the front crank seal located at?
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremyrocksursox
where is the front crank seal located at?
Once you remove the crankshaft pulley, lower timing cover, then the lower timing gear you'll see the crank seal front.)
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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This diagram might look confusing because the oil pump looks like part of the block, but the crank seal is #14:

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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thanks, helped out alot
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