Well i just got my second DA it was my girlfriends for about 7 years or so n i have dumped some money into in the past 6-8 months now its gonna have to sit over the winter so im gonna go ahead n start workin on the motor.. So.... any suggestions on if i should build the motor up a lil bit for boost and boost it?? OR?? just build the motor up with all the goodies n go all motor?? whatever i do im not swapin my motor kuz everyone does that it seems so im stayin non-vtech LS regardless.. let me know if anyone has any suggestions!!
THANKS!!

 

well you can go boost but you will have to check the oil and coolant often. but if you jus build your ls you will have a little less power than boost but it is more reliable. cuz i have a 93 teg with a b20 swap and boosted. its giving me alot of problems but its fast. good luck with either one

 

yeah that what i kinda wondering how big of a problem boost is for people. like is it not reliable enough to be a daily driver even if its done right??

 

I say it doesn't matter.. if you wanna be fast, boost that ****.... lol this one dude I know says N/A is just an excuse for being slow.. but it all depends. What are you building your car for? Your better off with N/A if you plan to AutoX it I guess... I'm saving up $$ for boost sometime in the future. 1 day

 

boost is to achieve big power with less $$ compared to N/A, nevertheless, to achieve a fast N/A is a noble challenge.

 

well money is not really not a big issue kuz i got a good cheap mechanic to do all my internal work and such its really just parts cost but i dont wana boost my car n have a problem every other weekend i will want to drive it every day in the summer but i still wana be fast enough to suprise people

 

no autox either im more of the drag racing type of guy and driftahboi thats what my baby is too 91RS

 

Replace the seals, get a new tune, problems solved... Reliablity is all in the tune man...

 

thats depends do u wanna go fast then go turbo

 

build your motor then boost it one day. or boost it first, and when it fails build it back up. your call.

 

my buddy has a 95 LS, with a very mild build the block is bored 10 over type r pistons intake manifold, throttle body, headers and exhaust, oh and gsr tranny and for awhile he was know as the vtec killer. that is until i came out haha. but ive seen him beat alot of fast cars. i watched him beat a SRT4 5 times in a row. and me personally im all mortor GSR

 

if your running an ls motor I say boost it. Just don't cheap out on parts as thats usually where your reliablitly issues come into play. As long as you don't half *** your build, use quality parts, and have it installed by someone who knows what their doing, with a good tune you'll have a reliable daily driver.

 

Well everyone is right in the fact that throwing a turbo at it will make it much faster quicker. You will run into several problems if you just throw the turbo on. Personally, if i was gonna go with a turbo. I would pull built you motor up nice, get some nice pistons etc etc. Get a boost guage and find the right compression ratio. Than that ****er will be beyond fast

 

I seen many reliable tegs with basically a stock motor. Stock bottom end. The fact remains on the tune. Though IMHO I would build the motor so you dont run into problems down the road. Boost on a stock motor is a ticking time bomb. The reliability is in the hands of the tuner and the driver.

 

 

well i did a 96 spec type-r boosted with a sc51 turbo. Runs great made 308 whp with only a thicker head gastket and ARP studs. and ran a 12.6 on street tires. I did have ITB's on the motor before, and yeah it was fun, but it was slow

 

THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLYS GUYS!!!
that sounds good right there i guess i should just build it up real good and if its not fast enough gor me then i should boost it... even tho it would be cheaper to boost it with the motor already out but i guess it will still be fun to stomp on 'srt4's and such for a while just all motor i guess we will see how much this all motor thing work with a LS..

 

now that thats cleared up i can still take suggestions but....
does anyone know of a good stroker kit as well *** good cams and other stuff to get to do this all motor??

And when and if i go for boost i know its kind of a dumb question but i have never really known or heard anyone that used an 'ebay' turbo kit so is it that bad and do u get that much more power out of a kit that will cost u 2 to 3,000 more??

 

im bout to head to work to any advice will be nice i will be back on tonight..
THANKS!!

 

if your going to go all motor great, if your going to boost fine, but dont build it for all motor with the intention of boosting shortly after. All your going to do is throw money away. you wont need a header if you go boost but will for NA. You wont need high comp. pistons with boost but will with NA. Your cam choice will be different depending on boost or NA.
First things first, figure out what you want to do and go that route.
Personally with an ls if your not going to ls/vtec then I don't reccomend all motor but that is my personal opinion. I would go boost, but thats me.
Once you figure out your path then start doing some research on which parts will work better with each other and build your motor from there. Also once you figure out your path check out either the all motor forum or the forced induction forum as they are specific to what you will be doing.

 

If youre more of a drag guy, you might want to check this thread. I wanted to go boost too thinkin it was the fastest way to get down the 1/4 til i read this thread. I found it quite interesting.

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/di...&TopicID=93150

 

I'd say it depends on what you're looking to get out of it. I, personally, would boost, just because the ls motor and a turbo work so well together.

 

i would suggest building the bottom end possibly rebuilding head oem

bore it out
forged pistons
eagle crank
arb rod and main bearings
weisco h beam rods



as far as turbo kit, i would just mix and match build your own, it is less expensive

you can find a basic manifold for 200, or a nice one for 300

pick a nice turbo, for what you want

most likely wastegated,

grab a nice waste gate

oil feed kit.

intercooler,

custom 2 and 1/2 inch piping

blowoff valve

injectors

rail

intake

throttlebody

its not cheap

but thats going to allow you to boost a **** ton of psi

in otherwords, reliable,

and blowing most of them away

butttt its a bit expensive obviously

you can get an ebay kit it will just not be as reliable

i know they can have problems with high heat and basically melting to hell or just all out spinning bearings out

boosting has to be done wisely so as not to blow a motor or end up with high lag

but i would say its the way to go

ls transmissions provide you with longer gears perfect for boosted applications

 

I'd say build the car for boost and than boost it later down in the future.

 

all these replys just got me goin both ways with it (leanin more twoard NA tho) i dont know what to do all motor sounds more reliable n if i do it right then i think i will get just about as much power than if i just boosted it and did a little motor work.. right or wrong?? and someone said boost it if im not goin LSvtech but vtech aint gonna do much more if i build my LS the right way with a good stroker kit i was thinkin but whats a good stroker kit and what else will i need to go all motor?? (cams-intake manifold-good header-good exhaust-fuel injectors-fuel rail-and this and that and this and that) what do i all need to do this all motor i need to start ordering some stuff here in a coulpe weeks after i get all these christmas presents takin care of and get a cheap winter beater but i wana start lookin and pricin around..