What intake do you guys think would be the best for a high horsepower car? I have a 2.0 ltr 12:1 CR motor. Redline will be 8500.

I live in Florida so the temps get VERY hot ...

Adam

 

most any will do for up to 220 whp...

 

 

or comptech

 

Lets ask this...

What do you think we are all running?

When you figure that out, then use that friendly Search thingy and follow up your hunch with some investigation and education.

Call me sarcastic or whatever but, C'mon man this is basic. You have more than double digit posts, you didn't figure out which intakes are better or worse by now?

Try ones with first letters like "A" or "C" or "M" or even "A" again or "I" and even another "I"


Good luck dude,


A.

 

all the same to me in the end, pick your poison

 

1Grey,

No one really came forward with a "great" intake for high horsepower cars. YES - people did tests on STOCK or near stock cars. And AEM, ICEMAN, Comptech, and Injen are the favorites. But those are on STOCK/Basic motors.

A 2.0 ltr high CR motor is WAY different and needs MUCH more air. Thus - I'm under the impression that those CAI may start to become a restriction and hinder horsepower. I also know that "filter on stick" intake suck in HOT air. Hot air = bad!. haha ... and there's plenty of hot air in Florida. Especially in the summer. However, they do provide more air. For instance, a SC car hates CAI.

I really don't want to be a test subject ... and know a few peeps have 2.0 ltr motor. I guess I'm asking these guys ...

 

Hence 2 "A's"

1 for the infamous AEM and one for the ARC.

Put a name to every letter I listed and then you have all the usual suspects when comparing the more popular and beneficial intakes. Sans the J's racing JDM sausage.

You want higher flow? Then you will probably end up with a short ram style. You want high flow and cold air? Then you will need to modify a little more and create some ducting to feed the higher flowing intake, or you could just get the "icebox or Mugen."

Have you thought of custom work?

A.

 

ok.
what is that..
I know Toda made that.. and what it does.
why is it so much better than the stock setup.
please explain.
new here.. really don't see the need of it.

 

190whp is not high horsepower. lol

 

Most people have AEM, MUGEN, or COMPTECH........... why not try to see wat company parts work well with another company parts.......
ex. mugen exhaust, mugen header, and a mugen intake

For a honda engine it is


[Modified by 4-1-1, 1:06 PM 7/31/2002]

 

Stock and make your own Ice Box, or go with the Comptech Ice Box.

 

That is TODA Racing's Sports Injection Kit: http://www.todaracing.com/B165.html Most call them ITBs, short for individual throttle bodies. It has four individual throttle bodies and intake runners, allowing a shorter, straighter path for higher airflow to each cylinder, far less disturbed by pressure variations and different effective lengths from the throttle body (TB) to the intake valves. Normal intake manifolds have a single large TB metering air into a plenum, and each cylinder has to pull air from that plenum through its runner. Each progressing cylinder has a longer distance as you go farther from the single TB in the case of the ITR's manifold, and that flow may be disturbed by an intake pulse and it's wave from a different cylinder. On an ITR's plenum, air from the throttle has to make a 90 degree bend to go down the runner, then curve more down the runner and more through the port. As you can see, ITBs are as close to a straight shot as possible to the cylinder. The throttle plates are closer to the intake valves, quickening throttle response. It allows for optimal placement of the injectors, sometimes it is better to place them further upstream for more time and distance to atomize fuel more homogenously.

Shorter distance, straighter path, and less flow disturbance are the major improvements.

ITBs are especially good on very high output engines and are seen on them often. Most race cars. The new BMW M3 has them and so does the M5. So does the Ferrari F50 and....there you go.

Someone has to teach the Noobs!

 

AEM seems to fine for motors over 200 whp. haven't found anything that worked better (apart from sports injection of course).

 

Damn Dan. Long time no see. Where ya been. Heard you had a family emergency of some type. Hope everything is okay.

Oh and I'm doing the Comptech Ice box. Right now I have a AEm CAI.

 

.....if you look at the really competitive guys, they just use a short ram or cai for the street - since it's only a ~2whp difference.

As far as at the track, they put a rubber sleeve and extension out of the passenger side high beam hole with or without a filter.

 

I see.. but I have an M roadster a 99 with 240hp the S52 motor in Europe the same motor have the ITB set up to convert a US motor to an euro spec motor you need the ITR and the special ECU for it.
how does TODA's ITB work. do they have special ECU for it?

 

does this thing have a filter to keep dirt or water out of the engine?

 

If I was actually coherant and cared about hondas, i would not listen to "rembrant" who can't spell his own name. Considering rembranDt has a "D"

 

stop being such a dick and help this guy out...if everyone who asks a question that has been answered before is told to do a search, there would be no honda tech.

your sarcasm is not appreciated and your use of infamous is incorrect...infamous means famous for a bad cause

 

Stop being a woman.

Anton was nice about it.

It was used properly.

If you want to bring up grammar, I suggest you learn how to use periods.

Enough whining.


[Modified by Reid, 9:56 PM 8/3/2002]

 

he was not nice about it...get that straight

if you understood the english language, you would know the meaning of infamous which was used wrongly in his case



[Modified by Type-Rare#1248, 2:35 AM 8/4/2002]

 

why do people get so cocky on this sight? I mean if someone asks a question either, A. answer it to best of your ablity, or B. ignor it and go take your anger out somewhere else! i belive this is a tech site, so its designed to help people out!! eric

 

DISCLAIMER: (This is NOT neccessarily aimed at the original poster, I think he got the idea, This is for the baby-sitting wannabe big bothers who feel they need to protect eachother from one another. I am by far not the harshest member here with rude comments, and stand by all of my postings. The original however was sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek, sue me.)

I never saw such a bunch of whining babies here before.

When all of a sudden was it all right to come and post questions like this topic, that BTW has been asked and answered 1,000,000 friggen times before and Guess what? All of those debates are either "Current" or "Archived" topics Here which we can ALL Search for.

SEARCHING is NOT a bad thing and should be utilized more often than Not. I do it 10X over with all different words and phrases, Before I even think of posting something that may or may have Not been covered previously. Using the Tools that they gave us here is a righteous gift that is often taken for granted and overlooked.

No, there was NOT a "Great Intake Test" but, there is loads of documented information to be had on this particular topic both, Here and on the Web. The mention of "High Horsepower" is misleading since it is followed by 190 WHP. A lot of Modded R's already do that with Just an "AEM" or "ICEBOX" and no need for "ITB's" although they would be nice albeit insufficient for road use. Don't get me wrong here either, when I say with "Just" the AEM, I mean the intake AND whatever else the car has modded to achieve the 190WHP.

I already added the disclaimer that my response was sarcastic so he was forewarned. And although sarcastic I also provided further information on a subsequent post.

Since when did we become a bleeding heart bunch of whining little b*tches? This is a very "cutting edge," "On topic","Tech related" board that is loads better than the masses and keeping it Free of: "The same old questions" is key. Although the air grows stagnant sometimes this Forum is THE most up to date and technically proficient around, And frequented by "The Real World" of racing. Let's try not to rehash the same old sh*t without even trying to add something new to the mix I.E.: Some new fangled information about intakes? Or even, Which has higher flow velocity or volume, NOT just: "Which intake is better" If that's the topic then by all means SEARCH your life away, Like we ALL did when we were new.

You feel the need to protect someone? Do it somewhere it matters like right NOW in the Real world around You, Like your baby Sister or Grandmother. This is a web forum NOT a Sitting service.

Just so this is considered "On Topic" If you feel you need an intake and Yes Hot cams do require one for optimum output, then do what I already mentioned and get one of the ones that we all run; AEM "Infamous because of it's sketchy history with and without that bypass valve ," ICEBOX, INJEN, ICEMAN, MUGEN "if you don't have AC," ARC, J's racing. ITB's are pretty exclusive with price and for their usage and protection level for daily use.

Good luck to all and happy hunting/modding...

A.


PS don't even begin to pick on my postings for grammar and spelling when most posters can't even form coherent sentences.

PPS Reid




[Modified by 1GreyTeg, 11:08 AM 8/4/2002]

 

Dude, my use of Infamous is defined in my rebuttal above.

Wrongly? Yes it is an Adverb but, that sentance of yours just doesn't flow well, how about:

Note the bold print for corrections.... Now where's my Red ink pen for?

Must stay ON TOPIC,,, Intakes.....

A.