i dont approve of this at all so please dont flame me , but a friend of a friend claims to have it done and says he gets great results . hondata claims nitrous should be "ok" with the reflash. i was just wondering if any of u have this combination and if u have had the same results?

 

I started typing an elaborate reply to this message and i got half way through and deleted it all. I will simply sum it up by putting a for myself for even trying to reply and a to the person who put nitrous on his car.

Now does this "friend of a friend" have an I/H/E to go with his reflash? That would be the only semi-acceptable excuse because if he is running a reflashed ECU on a stock Si with nitrous... that would be pointless. He would be getting very minimal results daily driving, and the same with using the nitrous. He would be using nitrous on a motor that cant breathe in and out as fast as the ECU wants it to, so the results of the nitrous would be noticeable but pointless. This is just my opinion...

Nitrous can't be healthy for your car, it is only acceptable at the dentist, and for those crazy kids out there that suck it out of balloons.

 

I believe that's Helium.

Unless they're putting Nitrous in balloons now and I've just missed it.

On a side note.........I'd like to try some of that Sulfur Hexafluoride **** that the Mythbuster guy does on his show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UAEQfMTtU

 

yes he has i/h/e but i agree completely , this is a stupid stupid thing to do and the risk is far greater than the reward. i was just curious to see if any1 on our great forum here was brave(retarded) enough to go through with this

 

haha yea you're right! Helium as well, but they put nitrous in balloons as well, some crazy laughing gas/high feeling? idk. never done it. I am pretty sure it is the same stuff from BIO DOME!! Ohhh I'm slutty OOHH I'm slutty!


HAHA...on the other hand, I would love to try some of that mythbusters stuff, as soon as you said that I knew exactly what you're talking about!! That $hit is crazy!!!

 

I fail to see the concern you guys are crying about.
1. You dont know the nitrouse setup. Wet or Dry.
2. Nitrous is no worse than putting a turbo on your car.
3. Uneducated FTL.

 

u cant put a dry shot on the si buddy. well u can but u will destroy the motor . uneducated

 

Are you kidding me? Yeah that why they even offer Dry kits. You have no idea what your talking about. you know how I know this?

Cause you poke fun at a dry kit, so obviously that means he is running a wet kit. A wet kit is safe for ANY car reflash or not. If you have a wideband you can monitor the a/f and simply bump the fuel jet up to compensate or add more fuel.


You come in here and the first words out of your mouth are "Dont flame me." Have confidence, who the hell cares what your reputation is on the internet? No one in here has honestly helped you in the first place. Let me tell you, if HONDATA says it will be okay, then Id take their word for it. Not a bunch of kids swinging around the internet.

So lets get a check list here.


For nitrous
Hondata says its okay Check
Friend has done it, with great results Check

Against nitrous
A poster that has no clue asking about a proven setup check
Other people that have no clue saying its bad check

Proven will work for me. You can run around believing everyone else but I stick with the people that know what they are talking about. You know like the huge company and a person that has in on their car.

 

no i dont believe the guy because i dont know him and of course u can buy nitrous "import kits" that are a dry shot , but i wouldnt trust the computer to adjust it self to a dry kit with just the reflash , u would need k-pro to do it properly and so far that isnt available unless u want to run an rsx-s ecu and the si ecu together. so yea thats a no on the dry kit

 

in before the madness. *grabs popcorn*

 

I researched adding Nitrous with my Supercharger but was strongly advised against it by my mechanics. Holley sells a wet kit for DBW systems that I thought would be a nice fit (Model 05134NOS). You can get it through Summit Racing. I also recall someone else running it on their SI, and claimed no problems.

In my case it was a no go because of something having to do with too much cylinder pressure. In addition, if your caught with Nitruos is CA, you can lose your car.

 

What if you don't have the bottle in the car? Can they get you for "intent to spray" or "possesion of nitrous paraphernalia"? There is probably a loop hole there, that as long as you don't cruise around with the bottle in your car, you can't get busted. (A.K.A.-if you are going to the track, have someone else, that isn't nitrous equipped, bring the nitrous)

*PS- I am only kidding around. If there is a loop hole, so be it. But, if there isn't, I don't need someone coming in to prove me wrong with links to California's DMV bi-laws or whatever.*

 

me to looks so crazy

 

correct me if im wrong but why would you need a k-pro... you tune nitrous on the jettings... i know from experience but you can teach me

 

can't tune timing with the jets.

 

depends how much of a shot you are running....

 

If you're only adjusting base timing you're limited to a certian sized shot depending on your setup.

not being able to adjust timing on the K20Z3 running a 50 shot is a bit risky IMO...you'd probably get away with it but i wouldn't do it. anything higher than a 50 shot would be dangerous without the ability to adjust tining through out the RPM range. again, people do it....but not me.....i don't have the cash to risk a blown motor

 

im not saying it cant be done guys , but just because u can do it doesnt mean its smart or safe

 

im not arguing that fact.

dude was saying that all you need to tune is the fuel jets so there's no need for a standalone. there's more to tuning than just adjusting fuel.

 

Seriously how much nitrous are you trying to run? Its a honda civic, not some nitrous eating 454.

There are many ways to do it. You can spray a small dry shot threw the maf and let the computer compensate or you can run a wet kit. You would be safe up to about a 75-100shot on a wet kit with out adjusting the timing.

 

im not trying to run nitrous. im just saying you need to adjust timing for any size nitrous shot you're trying to run.

75-100 shot? without touching timing at all? wtf? years ago when i ran nitrous on my single came (65 shot) i had to retard my base timing at least 2 degrees for it to run correctly. anything less i would detonate. and that's on a motor with a far lower compression ratio than the K20Z3.