Shaved and painted bay finsihed
Finished painting my buddies bay over teh weekend. Paint is milano red with a red pearl topcoat(pics do not do it justice, looks sick in person)
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If its untouched with the factiry paint and all you want to do is spray it, then the easiest thing to do would be scuff it down with a red scotchbrite and some ajax, wash it of and your good to go
Looks awesome.
What type of filler do you guys use in these bays? I've always wondered about the natural flex that occurs in these unibody cars - basically how durable these shaved bays are for a street driven car over the course of several years?
What type of filler do you guys use in these bays? I've always wondered about the natural flex that occurs in these unibody cars - basically how durable these shaved bays are for a street driven car over the course of several years?
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Originally Posted by lstegg
Did you use a rattle can or a HVLP? That thing looks sick!
Good job!
Good job!
I used a Devilbiss finishline HVLP gun with a 1.4 tip.
Originally Posted by Pandahatch
Good luck sir. All Metal is in no way close to being as strong as or taking the place of welding. Your car though, good luck.
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What is all metal?
I thought you meant you welded everything up.
But it seems you guys are talking about some sort of epoxy/JB Weld type of stuff?
Are you worried that will crack out over time?
I thought you meant you welded everything up.
But it seems you guys are talking about some sort of epoxy/JB Weld type of stuff?
Are you worried that will crack out over time?
All Metal is not meant to be used as a structural filler, it WILL crack over time, I promise you that. I'm not ******* your work, I'm trying to save you some headache. The holes that you filled over will start to reappear over time as well, I have seen this from experience and not just hear say. I grew up in a body shop and have around 8 years experience.
Panel adhesives are a COMPLETELY different animal, they can not even be compared to fillers. Chemical bonding is preferred these days because of OEM manufacturers thing sheet metal, hell Honda is 22-24ga, a swift breeze can dent one. When you're dealing with engine bay metal, all of the contours and stampings reduce distortion when you weld on it as well as most engine bay metal is 20ga. I've been doing this type of work for a long time and this is my experience and knowledge, don't take it offensively, but instead as constructive criticism.
-Brian
Johnathan, All Metal is not an epoxy, it is a moisture resistant filler.
Panel adhesives are a COMPLETELY different animal, they can not even be compared to fillers. Chemical bonding is preferred these days because of OEM manufacturers thing sheet metal, hell Honda is 22-24ga, a swift breeze can dent one. When you're dealing with engine bay metal, all of the contours and stampings reduce distortion when you weld on it as well as most engine bay metal is 20ga. I've been doing this type of work for a long time and this is my experience and knowledge, don't take it offensively, but instead as constructive criticism.
-Brian
Johnathan, All Metal is not an epoxy, it is a moisture resistant filler.
Originally Posted by HighRevn
Ive never seen a rattle can come out like that lol.
I used a Devilbiss finishline HVLP gun with a 1.4 tip.
I used a Devilbiss finishline HVLP gun with a 1.4 tip.
I don't mean to hijack this thread - but is it realistic to have one of these beautiful engine bays and have it durable over the long term? Especially for a car that doesn't just sit and look pretty at cars shows?
Would every seam have to be welded?
Would every seam have to be welded?
Sikc work mand but the others are right. Every single hole will eventually start to show back through or crack. Ive had other shops around me use your all metal stuff to fill holes on quarters were a wing was, or when shaving molding holes etc. I have yet to see one that lasted more than a yr. The tried and true method, some type of back filler metal with the hole welded shut. Just take your time welding and try not to heat the metal up that bad.
Well I persoanlly have never had a problem with any filler cracking or bleeding through which includes all metal. Are you sure that in your past experiences that you prepped the surface right?
I dont have a problem with filler bleeding through. But I do have a problem with using filler in place of real metal welded in place. Anytime you shave something it should be metal on metal.




