interested in a rotrex kit for the s2k?
yes, i'm aware kraftwerks makes a kit.
tts-performance also makes a kit. (across the pond)
a little while back, i was very close to purchasing a KW kit. then a TTS kit.
i like both kits, and both Richard and Oscar. however, the kits have some downfalls that i didn't like. (and shipping across the pond kills us)
to overcome these, over the last few weeks i've been busting my *** on a little project. i feel it overcomes alot of the problems i had with the other kits, and sacrifices very little, if anything at all.
basically, i'm working on my own option for a rotrex kit.
it uses a more practical mountin location, ala the comptech (rip), vortech, sos, etc.
it uses a very clean belt system, resulting in a rather attractive mount setup.
here's the key ideas behind the design:
-bracket is made for the c30-94. as far as we can tell now, it can easily be adapted to fit the c38. (have not tested)
-specially designed pulley setup spins blower at 99% of capacity. (not 101, 102, etc.) no over-spinning means less chance it will explode. (and explode they do)
-stock redline can be used. (yes, even ap1 guys)
-reuse of oem parts where possible. new oem parts ordered, rather than iffy aftermarket.
-quality aftermarket parts. it's easy to find out what will work and what won't.
-8 rib belt system. the blower is spun by the pulley rotrex provides you with. no propritary hub/6 rib pulley system. less slippage too.
-using rotrex's pulleys, you are left with 5 pulley options. (max 10psi, with 4 steps down)
other pluses:
-no permanant modification to the vehicle. (this is very important to me.)
-only one coolant line relocated.
-rotrex uses self-contained oiling system. no tapping the motor or oil pan, no spacing out the vtec solenoid.
-light weight. (under 12lbs) low vibration. low noise.
-no fussing with the crank pulley. (it sucks, don't lie)
-no seneless relocation of oil filter.
-use of stock auto-tensioner. a wise man once told me: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
-install time. 2 hours sound nice? (assuming unintercooled) except for the blower oil cooler, everything goes in from the top too.
customization:
the main idea behind me building my own kit was to change some things in hopes for an ultimate setup (in my eyes)
something i can't change though is the persona around supercharger kits vs turbo kits.
personally, i hate how you can piece together a turbo kit, yet we're required to buy a supercharger 'package'.
i can't claim this bracket/system will fit everything, but the fact that is a simple bracket and pulley setup allows for alot of room to change.
i wasn't forced to purchase an intercooler system that wouldn't fit with my configuration.
i wouldn't buy a turbo kit i couldn't use a third of... so why do it with a s/c kit.
having just the bracket allows me to build a custom setup around my pre-existing parts.
pretty much, it's: bolt the bracket to the car, bolt the blower to that. NOW, i have options.
intercooler? no intercooler? v-mount? air to water? get the point?
i will offer a bolt-on air/air option.
as of right now, my car is alive, but hasn't seen boost. not quite ready for tuning.
i'd love to show off the brackets and diagrams, but no can do right now.
well, that's it. id love to hear everyone's thoughts-
that is the purpose of this thread-
oh, and what type of bov mount would you guys like on the charge pipe?
tts-performance also makes a kit. (across the pond)
a little while back, i was very close to purchasing a KW kit. then a TTS kit.
i like both kits, and both Richard and Oscar. however, the kits have some downfalls that i didn't like. (and shipping across the pond kills us)
to overcome these, over the last few weeks i've been busting my *** on a little project. i feel it overcomes alot of the problems i had with the other kits, and sacrifices very little, if anything at all.
basically, i'm working on my own option for a rotrex kit.
it uses a more practical mountin location, ala the comptech (rip), vortech, sos, etc.
it uses a very clean belt system, resulting in a rather attractive mount setup.
here's the key ideas behind the design:
-bracket is made for the c30-94. as far as we can tell now, it can easily be adapted to fit the c38. (have not tested)
-specially designed pulley setup spins blower at 99% of capacity. (not 101, 102, etc.) no over-spinning means less chance it will explode. (and explode they do)
-stock redline can be used. (yes, even ap1 guys)
-reuse of oem parts where possible. new oem parts ordered, rather than iffy aftermarket.
-quality aftermarket parts. it's easy to find out what will work and what won't.
-8 rib belt system. the blower is spun by the pulley rotrex provides you with. no propritary hub/6 rib pulley system. less slippage too.
-using rotrex's pulleys, you are left with 5 pulley options. (max 10psi, with 4 steps down)
other pluses:
-no permanant modification to the vehicle. (this is very important to me.)
-only one coolant line relocated.
-rotrex uses self-contained oiling system. no tapping the motor or oil pan, no spacing out the vtec solenoid.
-light weight. (under 12lbs) low vibration. low noise.
-no fussing with the crank pulley. (it sucks, don't lie)
-no seneless relocation of oil filter.
-use of stock auto-tensioner. a wise man once told me: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
-install time. 2 hours sound nice? (assuming unintercooled) except for the blower oil cooler, everything goes in from the top too.
customization:
the main idea behind me building my own kit was to change some things in hopes for an ultimate setup (in my eyes)
something i can't change though is the persona around supercharger kits vs turbo kits.
personally, i hate how you can piece together a turbo kit, yet we're required to buy a supercharger 'package'.
i can't claim this bracket/system will fit everything, but the fact that is a simple bracket and pulley setup allows for alot of room to change.
i wasn't forced to purchase an intercooler system that wouldn't fit with my configuration.
i wouldn't buy a turbo kit i couldn't use a third of... so why do it with a s/c kit.
having just the bracket allows me to build a custom setup around my pre-existing parts.
pretty much, it's: bolt the bracket to the car, bolt the blower to that. NOW, i have options.
intercooler? no intercooler? v-mount? air to water? get the point?
i will offer a bolt-on air/air option.
as of right now, my car is alive, but hasn't seen boost. not quite ready for tuning.
i'd love to show off the brackets and diagrams, but no can do right now.
well, that's it. id love to hear everyone's thoughts-
that is the purpose of this thread-
oh, and what type of bov mount would you guys like on the charge pipe?
Why not go turbo? I mean, it's a much more efficient rout. You are going to end up spending so much money in the end with all the R&D you will have to do.
turbo is far more expensive to do right- the numbers have been run a hundred times.
even with all my r&d at this point, im still a few thousand dollars under the price of a typical 'turbo kit'
there will always be someone that will say no to the idea, that's why there are options out there.
just like you can pick a greddy, full-race, or lovefab manifold.. i want to offer another option to mount the blower.
you're not stuck putting a turbo in one spot, so why be stuck putting the blower in a less efficient spot than possible? doesn't make sense to me.
again- everyone has their choices to make. i just didn't like the choices we were left with...
either way, they will be made.
even with all my r&d at this point, im still a few thousand dollars under the price of a typical 'turbo kit'
there will always be someone that will say no to the idea, that's why there are options out there.
just like you can pick a greddy, full-race, or lovefab manifold.. i want to offer another option to mount the blower.
you're not stuck putting a turbo in one spot, so why be stuck putting the blower in a less efficient spot than possible? doesn't make sense to me.
again- everyone has their choices to make. i just didn't like the choices we were left with...
either way, they will be made.
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