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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Long story short: Thieves broke ignition column (99 civic hatch), bought a used one off of NOFX/Eran and replaced the broken one with the used one. Everything is perfect other than one small annoyance. The beeper for a key being left in your ignition goes off no matter what when I open the door. In other words, if my key is in my hand (not in the ignition) and I open the door, it will beep. Also, the beep for leaving your headlights on (which I believe is a different tone all together) does not go off when I open the door with headlights on. Any ideas?

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Edit: Please don't tell me to simply disconnect the beeper or whatever. I would like to fix the problem, not cover it up. Thanks.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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The headlight beep won't occur since it's pre-occupied with "key in ignition" beep. I've been getting this issue intermittently on my 96, somehow moving the key around in the ignition slot while removing makes it go away. Does yours -always- occur, and is there any way to make it go away?
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Never heard of that happening until this thread. Wish I could help you out.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Davus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The headlight beep won't occur since it's pre-occupied with "key in ignition" beep. I've been getting this issue intermittently on my 96, somehow moving the key around in the ignition slot while removing makes it go away. Does yours -always- occur, and is there any way to make it go away?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, that is what I assumed was going on. Nope, unfortunately it isn't intermittent. It beeps every time the door is open regardless of the key position.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Never heard of that happening until this thread. Wish I could help you out. </TD></TR></TABLE> Thanks, hopefully someone has.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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if your car came from Canada it will have a negative keysense wire that will be blue/white or blue /red ..... it needs to rest at 12 volts and drop to zero when you put the key in..... if its not seeing a ground it will think the keys in the ignition .... so if you have a ignition out of a USDM car the key sense wire wont be there and the beeper will keep going off ..... this is just a idea i hope this helps
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIRll-EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your car came from Canada it will have a negative keysense wire that will be blue/white or blue /red ..... it needs to rest at 12 volts and drop to zero when you put the key in..... if its not seeing a ground it will think the keys in the ignition .... so if you have a ignition out of a USDM car the key sense wire wont be there and the beeper will keep going off ..... this is just a idea i hope this helps </TD></TR></TABLE>
Where would this wire be? How would I track this down? thanks for the help.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIRll-EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your car came from Canada it will have a negative keysense wire that will be blue/white or blue /red ..... it needs to rest at 12 volts and drop to zero when you put the key in..... if its not seeing a ground it will think the keys in the ignition .... so if you have a ignition out of a USDM car the key sense wire wont be there and the beeper will keep going off ..... this is just a idea i hope this helps </TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW. That is awesome. Great tech info.

This is quite possibly the best first post I have ever seen. You are a credit to this site and a shining beacon of hope for all the other retarded '08 members.

Good form, and welcome to the site.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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heres a pic ..... thanks for the props .... i'm a 12 volt installer so i try to help when i can

http://www.directechs.com/timages/ksense_20985.jpg
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SIRll-EK
heres a pic ..... thanks for the props .... i'm a 12 volt installer so i try to help when i can

http://www.directechs.com/timages/ksense_20985.jpg
Thanks man, but the link didn't work for me
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SIRll-EK
heres a pic ..... thanks for the props .... i'm a 12 volt installer so i try to help when i can

http://www.directechs.com/timages/ksense_20985.jpg
Brings me to their main page.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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oops i forgot my computer automatically sets up the password .... i'll do it the ghetto way

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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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So that's supposed to be a '99-'00 keyless module then, right? '96-'98 should be in the radio.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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yep .... he said he had a 99 ...... this is a pic from a Canadian model .... if thats the problem it'll look like the pic
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Excuse me for my stupidity, but what is it that I would need to check/do to try to fix this?

I really do appreciate the help so far.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SIRll-EK
yep .... he said he had a 99 ...... this is a pic from a Canadian model .... if thats the problem it'll look like the pic
USDM hatchbacks didn't have keyless either though. They were all built in Canada, but they're not really much (if at all) different then the US built and Japan built ones.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 04:09 AM
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Canadian cars are a little different because of there immobilizer laws they have.....
thats why a canadian model will have a keysense wire and usdm ones dont... if theres no keyless model you can look in the green factory alarm plug for the keysense .....

i'm just trying to help a guy out not start a argument ..... if i'm wrong i apologize
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SIRll-EK
Canadian cars are a little different because of there immobilizer laws they have.....
thats why a canadian model will have a keysense wire and usdm ones dont... if theres no keyless model you can look in the green factory alarm plug for the keysense .....

i'm just trying to help a guy out not start a argument ..... if i'm wrong i apologize
I'm not arguing either.

I was under the impression that his car was just built in Canada (like all US hatchbacks), not "from" Canada.
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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NOFX
I was under the impression that his car was just built in Canada (like all US hatchbacks), not "from" Canada.
Correct.

Someone help me with my complete confusion! haha.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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heres what i would do ..... first check to see if the keysense wire is there ... if it's not ...it's not your problem
.... if it is to fix it correctly you are gonna need a Canadian column ..... i'll do some research to see what else it could be
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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SIRll-EK
heres what i would do ..... first check to see if the keysense wire is there ... if it's not ...it's not your problem
.... if it is to fix it correctly you are gonna need a Canadian column ..... i'll do some research to see what else it could be
I just realized I don't even have a harness/plug in the kick panel right there because my car is a dx hatch.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Any other ideas? This is a huge annoyance. Especially when I'm working on my car and I need to have the door open.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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