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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Is it safe to ride lug centric? I've been seeing mixed reviews when searching for this question, some say it's safe. Some say get a hub centric ring. What are the ups and downs? Where can I buy them locally? How do they help?

I'm running aftermarket wheels and 5mm spacers on a 2000 prelude. I'll get pics of the hub and rims.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Between the car hub, spacers and wheel, it's not completely flush, is that going to affect anything? If you can see it, it kinda dips it.





Is it safe to run like this? I still get 7 1/2 complete turns on my lug nuts. Now and prior to the spacers, the wheels were balanced but still made some vibration in the front.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Whats the inside bore on those wheels. if it matches your hub bore you dont need them. If the wheel bore is bigger than you can order them from many places online.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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So I can just get a ruler and measure the circle from it's widest points?

What else can be the cause for wheel vibration? The tires are properly balanced and I just had an alignment.

Also, is it safe to have that little gap between the wheel and the hub?


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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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This is one of those "risk/probability" things. Some people don't use hubcentric rings and claim they don't have vibration problems. A lot of others do run into vibration problems, even if they're doing everything right (like tightening the lug nuts before the full weight of the car is on the ground, etc). And when you have wheel vibration problems, it can be a safety issue, since it can lead to loosening of the lug nuts.

One place you can get hubcentric rings is here.

In your case, though, it appears that you have pushed your wheels out beyond the "lip" on the hub - which means that hubcentric rings aren't going to make any difference. And if you're having vibrations, well... it's pretty likely that they're caused by the lack of hubcentricity.

Personally, I try to avoid going down that road of "we have a wheel which really doesn't fit the car, and then we do something (e.g. spacers) to get around why it doesn't fit but raises another problem (lack of hubcentricity), and then we do something to deal with that problem but just creates yet another problem, etc." If you stick with wheels that are designed to fit your car, you don't have to worry about that endless series of problems to deal with.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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thanks, so the only fix to this would be running the correct rim size?
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brandobot89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks, so the only fix to this would be running the correct rim size? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you could get the kind of spacers that have a hubcentric lip on them. But they typically involve pushing the wheels out 15-25 mm, which means then getting extended studs, and open-ended lug nuts... again, the whole "chasing one problem after another" syndrome.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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okay,..anything more than 5mm is going to rub for me, i guess i gotta start looking
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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a friend had 2 hub centric rings and it fit perfectly. I put on the ring first, then the spacer, then the wheel. The hub centric ring was able to fit into the center of the wheel also. Now i'm in the search for 2 more..where to find em....
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brandobot89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now i'm in the search for 2 more..where to find em....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you see the link in my previous post?
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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yes I did. I will be ordering them in a week.

I'm in the process of looking for hubcentric rings, but can't seem to find the right size. I'm measuring the wheel bore of my wheels and it's coming about 2.9 inches, which is around 74-76mm.
I'm trying to figure out what wheel bores were made from Work. Does anyone know the size from the factory? Would 2mm really affect the fitment of the ring?

rims are 5x114, 17x7, 47 offset work emotion cr kai.



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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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what kind of lug nuts are those
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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5zigen pro racer extended open ended. i just sold my set for $70.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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spacers should be fine..
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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so running the spacers with hubcentric rings should be fine?
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brandobot89 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so running the spacers with hubcentric rings should be fine?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That depends.

There are two different kinds of spacers. One kind is a flat disk, that pushes the wheel away from the hub on which it needs to sit for hubcentricity. With that kind, the wheels are not hubcentric, so they will still be susceptible to vibrations. The other kind is thicker and has a lip, just like the original hub does, so the wheels, with rings, will be hubcentric, so they should not be susceptible to vibrations. You can see a picture of the thicker kind with the lip on the website for H&R Trak wheel spacers (click here).
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