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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Aight I am building an B18B block with stock crank, however I will be using ITR piston and connecting rods. The Head is a complete B16a2 and thats about it oh and the B16 Tranny. I just wanna know of any problems that might come from this. I know about the stadard swap stuff i.e ( Oil Line, knock sensor, and timing belt...) Any advice or watever I appreciate it.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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arp rod and head bolts
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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And that should allow me to take it up to 8200 or higher? rpm range I was hoping 82 cause thats stock for si
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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you cant use itr rods with a ls crank

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecLsEater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And that should allow me to take it up to 8200 or higher? rpm range I was hoping 82 cause thats stock for si</TD></TR></TABLE>

you rev it to 10k easy
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Why won't the crank work... if you can use type r piston and ls rods the why not damn it this sucks what would you suggest then if I can't use the crank. and why 10k will it even make power after 8k
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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your post

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecLsEater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will be using ITR piston and connecting rods</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LA_HONDAS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cant use ITR rods with a ls crank</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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if you have big cams they can make power pass 10k rpms
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Ok so what I am asking I guess is why can't I use the ITR Pistons and Connecting rods on stock LS crank. I will be using the B16a2 cams so they are slightly less aggressive. I dunno lol I think we complete lost each other on that one appreciate it though what you go wait I will just check it.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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ls rods and itr rods are different sizes

if use a ls crank you have to use ls rods with it

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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and i didnt say you cant use itr pistons
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Ok roger that thanks man now I think that would require machining right and can the Ls rods hold at higher RPM or will ARP rod bolts help.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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yes they can hold high rpms with arp bolts
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LA_HONDAS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes they can hold high rpms with arp bolts</TD></TR></TABLE> Amen
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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hey when yals ls/vtec blow up trying to rev so high, make sure to post kill pics.


do not risk reving to 10k on stock rods, its a no no. also just because you install rod bolts doesnt mean the rods are now as strong as vtec rods.....they are not. there alot more other reasons why ls/vtec blow rods, and hint its not rod or bolt related.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Not sure how it got mangled like this but I don't want to run to 10k I wanna run to my ecu original 8.2k rpm range I with type R pistons and Ls Rods and what are your suggestions on what to make sure is in line so I don't have to post kill pics lol I just want a daily driver nice smoth running slightly aggressive car. not crazy turbo or all motor just almost stock but LS/vtec type R build.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecLsEater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not sure how it got mangled like this but I don't want to run to 10k I wanna run to my ecu original 8.2k rpm range I with type R pistons and Ls Rods and what are your suggestions on what to make sure is in line so I don't have to post kill pics lol I just want a daily driver nice smoth running slightly aggressive car. not crazy turbo or all motor just almost stock but LS/vtec type R build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

just get quality machine work on the rods and block, get arp rod bolts properly stretched.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey when yals ls/vtec blow up trying to rev so high, make sure to post kill pics.


do not risk reving to 10k on stock rods, its a no no. also just because you install rod bolts doesnt mean the rods are now as strong as vtec rods.....they are not. there alot more other reasons why ls/vtec blow rods, and hint its not rod or bolt related.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i rev my bone stock ls motor to 8500rpms with no problems what so ever

and FYI stock rods is more then enough for a all-motor setup

and on a side note the weak link for b-series rods are the rod bolts
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LA_HONDAS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


i rev my bone stock ls motor to 8500rpms with no problems what so ever

and FYI stock rods is more then enough for a all-motor setup

and on a side note the weak link for b-series rods are the rod bolts</TD></TR></TABLE>

your one of the lucky ones, and the oem rods are ok for a mild non high reving app.

on the ls rod the weak points are, bolts first, then the rod. there are more that are simple fixes , but ill let you the engine master with a stock block figure that out.

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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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BTW to fit the ITR pistons to ls rods you need to machine work to get them to fit, the small end of the rods is to think to fit in the ITR piston.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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im going h2b 90x102 13.0:1 c/r 93 pump gas so nothing will be stock
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Yeah I figured machining would be necessary, and you're talk about where the connecting rod and the piston meet correct? Final note is that you two La Honda and TeG you guys crack me up I appreciate all you input and I will def let you know how it turns out
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