Sorry guys!!! Convince me to stay!!! Otherwise it is save and supercharge the EP3 but I think the S2000 will be an all around better car even when stock compared to my modded EP3.

 

ap2... imo its better than the ap1 because of the small things honda has changed over the years with it. no plastic window in the back, bit more torque etc etc.

 

No one is going to convince you to stay with the Ep3 because it is a better car because it's not. Unless you need the perks of it being a good daily driver. But if you don't, and don't mind the crampedness feeling, go with the S2k.

 

I know two people that went from an EP to an s2k and regretted it. It's fairly common for people to get an s after an EP. There is a pretty lengthy thread on it on EPhatch.

Here it is: http://www.ephatch.com/forum/s...t=s2k

 

Completely different type of car. And I could never see myself having an S2K as an only car.

It makes a nice weekend scoot, but that's about it.

If you want a faster car but want to keep the utility (and if it must be a Honda), buy an RSX Type S.

 

I really don't mind not having space to store people and stuff. If i can't drive other people in my car that isn't my problem. I am not buying a transport rig, I am buying a car that 98% of the time only seats ME! I never do anything that requires carrying a ton of space besides moving which I would just borrow family member's trucks, etc. I don't mind having a "rough" "uncomfy" DD because my EP isn't the most comfy thing out there anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by square_1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really don't mind not having space to store people and stuff. If i can't drive other people in my car that isn't my problem. I am not buying a transport rig, I am buying a car that 98% of the time only seats ME! I never do anything that requires carrying a ton of space besides moving which I would just borrow family member's trucks, etc. I don't mind having a "rough" "uncomfy" DD because my EP isn't the most comfy thing out there anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

get the s2k then. nothing is holding you to the ep3. If i had the chance to trade up, i would do it.

 

I know I could get an RSX Type S and have a quicker car with more room but for the money I am going to eat from doing that I would rather just supercharge the EP.

I don't want the 2000 just to have a quicker car. I want a car that isn't too common compared to others. A car that has a more prestige reputation as being a true sports car, not just a civic on steroids. Cause even if you do have a supercharged or turbo 400 HP civic si. It is still a civic. I love civics, don't get me wrong but I feel now (should have realized this before) that it will never be worth that much money no matter how clean, etc. I would assume an S2000 would hold a little more long term value and just be a more professional car. I know it is a totally different style of car to switch to but I am ok with that.

Thanks for the input guys!

 

I see more S2k's than I do EP3's. As for being more professional...I dunno. The S2k's I see being daily driven are driven by middle-aged women. Seems guys have them for weekend cars and something else during the week.

If you're worried about looks, then why not put a nice looking set of OEM wheels on the EP3, do a mild drop and have no other outward appearance that the car isn't stock.

As for holding resale, the S2K's are no better or worse than any other Honda. Actually, the initial hit seems to be worse, then it levels off.

 

It's funny because I almost posted this exact same topic about 2 days ago. Except I prefer the AP2. But what got me started on the S2K was looking at the picture thread here on HT haha. After I sat down and really thought about it I realized I'm happy with my EP.

Someone made a suggestion to me. They told me to go out and rent an S2K for a couple of days (if you even have a rental car place that'll have one, around where I live there's a couple of exotic/sport car rental places.) and see how you like the change. Sure it's not the cheapest solution but its cheaper than actually buying/trading and insuring one for a DD.

 

My EP3 is already dropped with suspension bolt ons, brakes, etc. And even with suspension, engine, brake mods it felt cheap to the 2000 and just like I was stretching performance onto a civic chassis. In my area S2000s aren't common at all.

You are right about a lot of middle aged people driving them around but it is like that with every cool car. I am sure we'll see plenty of CRs driven by old people. Lotus's in my area, 350z, it is just the fact... And mainly because they are usually the ones that can afford them. I know you guys are trying to convince me to stay and I appreciate I am just leaning really really hard for the S2000 as a long term sports car as opposed to having to boost and fully build my EP3 just to be pretty fast.

 

Seems like your mind is already made up. I still say the S2K is not a good daily/only car, at all. If you own a house, then forget about it. You'll constantly need to borrow someones car just to go get something small.

The S2K isn't really that fast, either. A bolt-on RSX-S is a faster car than a stock S2K. Speed isn't everything though. What is it about the EP3 that makes you think it is slow? Do you race it often? I actually thought the EP3 ran pretty good when I had one. It had enough torque/HP to make it fun to drive.

Also, how much money will you need to layout/finance to get the S2K? If it is a decent amount, then perhaps you should wait, especially if you rent, have bills, etc. With this economy, I'd rather pay off my bills or upgrade my house before I bought another depreciating asset. Cars are one of the worst things you can buy right now.

 

bump that... good points.

 

stay with the ep3, s2k you will regret after awhile. if you want more power go with turbo or sc setup. or don't, keep the ep3 and buy a house. the ep is a great car and will last a long time, plus it is one of the very few civic si hb left which there will be a demand for it in the upcoming years.

 

i once saw a 3 way s2k race. ap1 supercharged lost to ap2 bolt ons and another ap1 with boltons roll racing on the highway ( kind of hard to [freak] that up )

ap2 or fail

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ap2... imo its better than the ap1 because of the small things honda has changed over the years with it. no plastic window in the back, bit more torque etc etc.</TD></TR></TABLE> The Ap2 is a watered down ap1...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nahonda04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stay with the ep3, s2k you will regret after awhile. if you want more power go with turbo or sc setup. or don't, keep the ep3 and buy a house. the ep is a great car and will last a long time, plus it is one of the very few civic si hb left which there will be a demand for it in the upcoming years. </TD></TR></TABLE> Thats a good idea...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortstopNE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i once saw a 3 way s2k race. ap1 supercharged lost to ap2 bolt ons and another ap1 with boltons roll racing on the highway ( kind of hard to [freak] that up )

ap2 or fail</TD></TR></TABLE> The Ap1 driver must of sucked or not had traction, Ive never even had an Ap2 come close to my rear bumper and Im only on 12 pounds. so stop spreading your nonsense

 

As for holding resale, the S2K's are no better or worse than any other Honda. Actually, the initial hit seems to be worse, then it levels off.[/QUOTE]

then why are 2000 s2ks still going for 14-15gs

 

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EXACTLY what i said a few weeks ago, We bought a corvette instead- dirt cheap. it'll make a nice work car, and fun to take to the track.


Modified by WyldRice at 5:28 PM 10/23/2008

 

What was the point of that story? good job low balling the **** out of some one who needed money.

 

"What was the point of that story?"

i've always wanted a 2-seater too! i looked at a few MR2's "Spyder", S2Ks, a few Miata's- nothing worth it under $7K then i started looking at some old vettes and found a gem. Corvette owners are older and more mature, and take better care of them. Oh, and most of the old vettes aren't "MODDED" to death like the riced out old honda's!


Modified by WyldRice at 5:37 PM 10/23/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaKyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thats a good idea...

</TD></TR></TABLE>this is one of the only reasons i keep the ep3 as a dd, because no matter how old it gets it will still have that civic si hb value not to mention a decent powerplant for a begginner

 

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then why are 2000 s2ks still going for 14-15gs[/QUOTE]

^^Still going for 14-15k? they were 30k new... em1's still go for 8-9k??

Your point was not thought through very well at all...

 

I kept my EP and lowered my payments so I can continue to attempt school.

Smarter choice and now I have extra cash each month.

S/C EP3 in the future that will be hopefully pretty sweet.

Thanks guys. Sorry I ever doubted you!

 

dooooo iiiitt!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by square_1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I kept my EP and lowered my payments so I can continue to attempt school.

Smarter choice and now I have extra cash each month.

S/C EP3 in the future that will be hopefully pretty sweet.

Thanks guys. Sorry I ever doubted you!</TD></TR></TABLE>that'll do pretty well in the future, have seen alot of jrsc on ep3 making close to 260whp, not bad for that car/motor