Ok so I was geting my car tunned tonight and it made 260whp @ 10lbs of boost. What kind of numbers do you think I should expect and how much boost can I push? Heres a rundown of the stuff I got......
H22
STOCK Sleeves
Mahle pistons 9:1 compression
eagle rods
Snapse manifold
precision sc60 turbo
70mm throttle body
Venom sheet metal intake manifold
Open down pipe
Head port and polished
Super tech titainum valves springs and retainers
Hondata s300
tial 44mm wastegate
tial bov
precision injectors 880's
aem fuel rail
aem fuel pressure reg
walbro 255 pump
balence shaft elemination kit
8lb flywheel
act clutch
msd 3bar map

Do them numbers sound right? Honestly Im kinda pissed all that money I got dumped in this build and I gained 60hp? And its not like I went cheap on the parts that I bought.

 

Bumpski

 

Yeah, that doesn't sound right... I know a guy here that has an ls vtec turbo'd on 7 lbs of boost getting about 300 whp.. i don't blame u on being pissed.

 

Something is DEFF wrong, my buddy made 348whp on 7 psi on a t3/t4 On a FULLY STOCK engine

 

ANd you actully gained 100 hp. Stock H22's put down 160whp

 

Yeah something is wrong.. You should be in the high 3's to mid 4's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cycopath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ANd you actully gained 100 hp. Stock H22's put down 160whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

No I actually gained 62whp because I had my car tuned before. I made 198 at the wheels all motor with cams. Thanks for trying to tell me about MY setup that you really know nothing about though.

As for everyone else that has replied what do you think could be wrong? The motor sounds healthy so I don't think its the motor and plus its not blowing out smoke or anything like that. The only thing I can think of its in the tune. Right or wrong?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h-duced &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No I actually gained 62whp because I had my car tuned before. I made 198 at the wheels all motor with cams. Thanks for trying to tell me about MY setup that you really know nothing about though.

As for everyone else that has replied what do you think could be wrong? The motor sounds healthy so I don't think its the motor and plus its not blowing out smoke or anything like that. The only thing I can think of its in the tune. Right or wrong?

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why do you have to be an a-hole about it? He was referring to what your average H22 will make to the wheels bone stock. The bottom line here is your tuning is inadequate. That or you got ripped for a different turbo and didn't bother to check it. Hell you might have a D16 and can't even tell. With that attitude you deserve those numbers.


Modified by drSquish at 11:25 AM 10/22/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h-duced &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No I actually gained 62whp because I had my car tuned before. I made 198 at the wheels all motor with cams. Thanks for trying to tell me about MY setup that you really know nothing about though.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm...did you mention that you had 198whp previously? Or are you just a giant A-hole?

Your numbers are low to answer your question.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drSquish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why do you have to be an a-hole about it? He was referring to what your average H22 will make to the wheels bone stock. The bottom line here is your tuning is inadequate. That or you got ripped for a different turbo and didn't bother to check it. Hell you might have a D16 and can't even tell. With that attitude you deserve those numbers.


Modified by drSquish at 11:25 AM 10/22/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you must ask why Im gonna be a "A-hole". I ask a question about my setup and some dude trys telling me what kind of power my setup has when he doesnt even know about it. I asked a simple question nor did I ask what my setup makes stock. Keep your "Inadequate" comments to your self. Also Im pretty sure I dont have a D16 this isnt my first rodeo guy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B serious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hmm...did you mention that you had 198whp previously? Or are you just a giant A-hole?

Your numbers are low to answer your question.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And no i didnt Mention that I had 198 previously nor did I mention that It was stock dude was off the topic and I took his comment as being a smart-***

 

Dude nice ride, I like the turbo mani.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h-duced &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you must ask why Im gonna be a "A-hole". I ask a question about my setup and some dude trys telling me what kind of power my setup has when he doesnt even know about it. I asked a simple question nor did I ask what my setup makes stock. Keep your "Inadequate" comments to your self. Also Im pretty sure I dont have a D16 this isnt my first rodeo guy.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fall off a cliff and kill yourself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iamthefollower &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude nice ride, I like the turbo mani. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks man

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drSquish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Fall off a cliff and kill yourself. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I'm interested to hear what your tuner had to say after the car was run on the dyno. Did you ask them why they ran such low boost, and why it made such low power?

Either there was some kind of restriction or leak; filter on the turbo was too restrictive, pipe popped off somewhere, or there's vacuum leak. Or it was detonating for some reason. Or there is a mechanical issue; ignition or valve timing is off, or you need to do a compression & leakdown test. Or the tuner is not the right person to bring your car to ever again.

 

My tuner said F H22's they are junk He said if I decided to build a B series I would have made well over 300hp. He said the reason for low boost was to break in the motor. I dont think its a mechanical problem the motor sounds healthy. There is no filter on the turbo. All the intercooler pipes are in tact. He also said that the rings need to seat still. This motor has brand new everything but I will do a compression test for ***** and giggles. The dude tried to give me the car back the first time at 8 lbs I said f that I didnt drop 10 grand for a lousey 33whp

 

he's kinda right about the b series, but you still should've been in the low 300's to mid 300's

 

everyone is entitled to their own opinions here but i highly disagree. Bigger motor bigger displacement = bigger numbers when done right. Proven here on honda-tech check it out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h-duced &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone is entitled to their own opinions here but i highly disagree.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not trying to say anything bad about ur ride, I was just trying to let you know that you should still have better numbers.. I like H's and all, but I always see better numbers from b series, I guess its because I havn't really seen too many H's with a turbo on them, I always see them with nitrous, but I mean ur ride is very nice, and I hope you get it worked out to where your wanting it. GL with finishing it man.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iamthefollower &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm not trying to say anything bad about ur ride, I was just trying to let you know that you should still have better numbers.. I like H's and all, but I always see better numbers from b series, I guess its because I havn't really seen too many H's with a turbo on them, I always see them with nitrous, but I mean ur ride is very nice, and I hope you get it worked out to where your wanting it. GL with finishing it man.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol yeah man me too. I hope everything works out and it stays in one peice.

 

what's compression across the board.

doesn't matter if its shooting oil or water, compression can still be low ( forcing all that power on the second set of comp rings.

id check that FIRST

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h-duced &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone is entitled to their own opinions here but i highly disagree. Bigger motor bigger displacement = bigger numbers when done right. Proven here on honda-tech check it out</TD></TR></TABLE>

probably has a stock head, don't the b series flow better than th h's?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i drive a honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

probably has a stock head, don't the b series flow better than th h's? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the head is ported and polished with super-tech titainum valves, springs, and retainers

 

are these the pistons made for FRM sleeves or are they plain jane forged pistons?


STOCK Sleeves
Mahle pistons 9:1 compression

 

id get a re-tune but yes, turn up the boost.

its a much higher compression compression stock and you lowered it by a decent ammount, the motor was made to take a strong force internally now that youve added the stronger internal parts it will hold more, my buddys got near the same setup making 130hp more at like 6.7lb more or some number that diddnt seem to fit