Alright, my first idea was that i would hook up the fan direct and soon found out through the archived posts that that is not the safest route to go. So now on with my symptoms.
My car warms up and reads a quarter of the temp gauge ( half of half ) when its supposedly "warmed up" . As i drive the car i don't notice the fan turns on till it hits the halfway marking point on the temp gauge, then the needle passes the halfway mark and hits almost overheating temp. The fan comes on and cools the car a bit then it comes back down to the halfway mark again and then shuts off. i notice that i park the car and then shut off the motor and the fan come on and stays on for a bit. When i come back later to the car i turn the car on and the temp gauge reads a quarter of the temp gauge full again and does all the same exact symptoms over again. Got home parked the car and shut off the car completely, and about 5 seconds later i turned the key to the ignition and it read a quarter again just seconds before i had turned it off it read half of the temp gauge... WTF ?

what is the damn problem, is it overheating or not.

 

Do both of the fans come on?

Yes it sounds like it's overheating, half of half is the correct range for our cars.

And yes you can safely temporarily run both fans to the battery to see if their motors are working. Could be a bad thermostat. Or bad fan, etc

 

back in the day i have replace a few temp gauges in the 94 accord it sent me on a goose chase at first but i won over all. their is a test for the gauge in the service manual. if memory serves me it was like 75 bucks to get a new temp gauge.

hey muffinman nice crown

 

Haha thanks, I had a few requests to throw this avatar back up so I dug it from my archives

 

good stuff

 

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both fans come on when i run ac and that is how im kinda bypassing the fan to keep the car cool right now but that's just to get me through the day. i was told it was a bad relay. but the fan does come on but the temp reaches too high. how bout that controller be hind the glove box ? could that be bad/?/

also notice that the green plug on the thermostat the + side on the plug illuminates very dim wen tested with a circuit tester.

 

the box i am refering to is the fan timer box behind the glove box...

 

Yeah it could very well be the fan relay.

Though the temperature should not get that hot before they come on. Which is why I suggested the thermostat. It's possible the temp is gunked up or damaged.

Also as mentioned above your dial could be busted too, but for it to go up and down based on the fans I would think it's correct.

 

Sorry I do not have my Mitchell on Demand handy but I wonder if you have any temp switches like my 95 Odyssey, it has temp switch A (hot) and B (hotter), you may only have one and it also could not be closing at the correct temp, I would not think that the fan controller would be bad as long as everything works at some point (although late). I also vote for a possible late opening thermostat as a possible problem, it has to be one of these issues listed.

If you have two temp switches then maybe switch A is bad and switch B is working just before it overheats, our friend here can look up the wire diagram if he has some time please.

 

alright well i drove the car around for a bit and noticed that the upper hose and lower hose have high amounts of pressure when i start noticing this overheating issue. imma pull out the crx when the accord cools down and swap the thermostat out and im hoping that the thermostat is failing to open up and hoping that the culprit isn't a bad water pump *fingers crossed*

 

cant i just hook up the fan direct for the mean time so i dont risk a blown head gasket ? i dont know how to hook up the fan direct . my crx 's fan turns on when i turn the switch to ign position and i want the accord to do the same....

 

You need to monitor both radiator hoses at the same time in the driveway or where ever while the engine is warming up, the top hose should heat up before the lower hose, if they seem to heat up at the same time then I would say the Tstat is stuck open which is also bad.

You can short out the fan switch near the Tstat, short out the engine harness connector not the switch itself, or you can jumper the relay, does your relay have a diagram on it, you jumper the switch side not the coil side, sorry, remove the relay from its terminals and jumper the correct terminals, not the actual relay, it will be totally removed, sorry I do not have my diagram software here. You do not need to wire the fan to the battery.

One of these guys can give you the switch wire colors and the relay terminal locations.

 

update*
Today reinstalled the sensor attached to the thermostat, put a tstat in it with gaskets, changed nothing. car sat for 15 mins and did nothing. upper hose heated up and lower hose was quite warm. Also i left the car with cap off and i can see that the water pump was circulating the water but still no fan turned on. i tested the relay under the hood and found out that 2 of the top post have 12v to them and the lower 2 dont have power. why isnt my fan kicking on, is there maybe a wire in the ign switch that isn't connected or what the heck. ive noticed the fan turn on by itself but oddly late. what the heck is wrong with this car... do i smell a new motor?

 

Your relay connector has two hot terminals, one of those gets jumpered to one of the terminals without power but without a diagram, I cannot tell you which is which, as a test, jumper a hot wire from the battery positive to one terminal with no power then the other, if the fan comes on then that is your fan terminal, do not use a jumper direct from the battery permanently as it is not fuse protected, plus you would have to disconnect it every time you parked the car.

 

*update*
opened up the upper hose radiator and found no thermostat in the outlet. cars fan function perfect but im assuming that with no thermostat that the sensor doesn't respond when the temp hits 170* . fan hits halfway point and just after the needle starts to pass the halfway point the fan kicks on and brings it back down to halfway point. im assuming i just need a thermostat.

 

help?