im a noob, but ive' asked this a couple times and noone seems to know the correct answer.

i have a 93 jdm b16 sir 2 in my eg hatch im guessing thats obd1. motor is the same year as the car. ive read that what i need it to pass is get a usdm del sol b16 intake manifold and connect some wirings whatever its called. any other things i need to do?. the problem i have is the b16 swapped is automatic so is the car. so im just wondering what ecu i can use? im using the jdm p30 auto ecu right now. i have the p28 auto from an ex wil that work? what do i need to do to make the car pass smog and eventually bar'? if you can give me specific details that would help



Modified by jdmstockeg6 at 10:30 PM 10/15/2008

 

any1?

 

u will need a USDM ecu and i dont ur gonna find one for that motor in auto...u prob need to have it Bar'd b4 u can smog the car

 

yea the usdm p28 auto ecu will not work? how can i bar it before i smog it?

 

u can try going to a smog station but if the smog techs figured out that the motor in that car doesnt belong there then he will just tell u to go home...thats when ur gonna need to make a trip to the state referee and get a sticker saying that motor is LEGAL to be in that car and it has ALL emissions equipment hooked up..

a state ref. is pretty much a state ran smog station and they are some picky ppl...they pretty much check over everything including the ecu and make sure its the right ecu for that motor u have, so i dont think a p28 will work bcuzz a p28 is for a 92-95 SOHC vtec motor..just do some research online

 

so what do you insist i do next?

 

if u can find a p30 that is auto then u should be set

 

i doubt it. i dont even think it exists or does it?

 

ya i think ur out of luck..

im not sure if u can or cant but u can try go convert to a b16a2 from the 99-00si but u would need a b16a2 block

 

yeaa.. but hey i can smog it right? that's what imma try to do for now. unless theres other ways

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmstockeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i doubt it. i dont even think it exists or does it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

never say never. i saw a automatic 01 gsr before came from the factory. i was like wtf idiot what a waste. if you cant do it, convert to 5 speed and get usdm p30 5 speed ecu

 

really? well mines daily drive so auto's good for me . lol i need hookup on smog you know any?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmstockeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what do you insist i do next?</TD></TR></TABLE>

mine got to be such a pain in the *** im selling it, my motors far from passing ref and cali laws are unforgiving

 

I think you're kinda SOL on this one. You need a USDM automatic P30, they don't exist. Register out if state or convert to 5 speed, personally I like the second option better, a B16 automatic is a waste.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you're kinda SOL on this one. You need a USDM automatic P30, they don't exist. Register out if state or convert to 5 speed, personally I like the second option better, a B16 automatic is a waste.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol well it wasnt really swap for power or whatever you guys call it. its daily drive and i just needed a swap that would get the car running and it was complete and cheap. so i went for it. theres no way to chip the p28?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmstockeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres no way to chip the p28?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure there is, but when the they look at the ECU and see that its a P28 they wont pass it. Provided I understand how california does stuff. A lot of stuff that would pass emissions in terms of passing the sniffer test wont pass a visual inspection. If I remember right they'll also want to see a Del Sol intake manifold as well. And all emissions equipment that would have been on a USDM del sol vtec hooked up and functioning properly.

Edit. I guess you already knew about the intake manifold.

 

yeaa but im looking for a way(if there is) to use an ecu that will work, before i make the engine look like a del sol's. the intake manifold usdm and something about evap right? but then again theres no point without the right ecu lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmstockeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeaa but im looking for a way(if there is) to use an ecu that will work, before i make the engine look like a del sol's. the intake manifold usdm and something about evap right? but then again theres no point without the right ecu lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

there is ways to pass smog but ur gonna be paying a good amount of money to get it pass..last i heard ppl are charging $300+...u can try to have it smogged at diff smog stations but if they figure it out they wont smog ur car but u never noe some smog stations might not even notice..if u cant find a auto p30 which i dont think there is then ur out of luck, either convert to a 5spd or swap in a diff motor and do a auto to manual conversion..what part of cali u from?

 

bay area.

 

damn that sucks, idk if this will help you.
http://sacramento.craigslist.o....html
I just googled it and this is what came up. Not really sure how the cali laws work, thank god there are no smog tests or anything down here in florida.

 

bottom line is you cant ref a auto b16 swap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jimster480 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn that sucks, idk if this will help you.
http://sacramento.craigslist.o....html
I just googled it and this is what came up. Not really sure how the cali laws work, thank god there are no smog tests or anything down here in florida.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i need an auto ecu

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmstockeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeaa but im looking for a way(if there is) to use an ecu that will work, before i make the engine look like a del sol's. the intake manifold usdm and something about evap right? but then again theres no point without the right ecu lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

From what I understand if you want to pass smog legitimately you will need to do the following:
- Install a '94 - '95 Del Sol Vtec intake manifold (I'm assuming the only difference between it and the JDM version is the purge solenoid, which is easily taken from a USDM D-series engine and added in leiu of swapping the manifold [someone correct me if i'm wrong])
- Swap in a 5 speed Beries tranny
- Use a USDM P30
- Make sure the charcoal canister is installed and all lines are hooked up
- Make sure you have a cat

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

From what I understand if you want to pass smog legitimately you will need to do the following:
- Install a '94 - '95 Del Sol Vtec intake manifold (I'm assuming the only difference between it and the JDM version is the purge solenoid, which is easily taken from a USDM D-series engine and added in leiu of swapping the manifold [someone correct me if i'm wrong])
- Swap in a 5 speed Beries tranny
- Use a USDM P30
- Make sure the charcoal canister is installed and all lines are hooked up
- Make sure you have a cat</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I'm just giving you the info. Theres no really easy solution to this unless you register the car out of state. Its not a pleasant situation to be in, i'll give you that, but until california comes up with some better smog laws theres not much anyone can do about it.