What years of the early b16's were known to have problematic LMAs?
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What years of the early b16's were known to have problematic LMAs?
I have an OBD0 B16 now (with some very loud LMAs) and I was looking into the full XSI swap from hmotorsonline.com. What production years had the inferior LMA designs?
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Re: What years of the early b16's were known to have problematic LMAs? (ComeOnKip)
From my experience the older the B16A, the more likely to have noiser LMAs.
Mostly the pre-OBD B16a engines are the only ones I've seen noisy LMAs on. I've never seen an OBD1 version with noisy LMAs, but admittedly I don't see a lot of swaps/hybrids any more here at the shop like I used to.
I don't know if Honda updated the LMAs after the 1992 year model, or if it is literally due to older age.
I do know that there is an actual difference in ITR LMAs though. different part number, etc. from all the other ones.
Mostly the pre-OBD B16a engines are the only ones I've seen noisy LMAs on. I've never seen an OBD1 version with noisy LMAs, but admittedly I don't see a lot of swaps/hybrids any more here at the shop like I used to.
I don't know if Honda updated the LMAs after the 1992 year model, or if it is literally due to older age.
I do know that there is an actual difference in ITR LMAs though. different part number, etc. from all the other ones.
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Re: What years of the early b16's were known to have problematic LMAs? (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From my experience the older the B16A, the more likely to have noiser LMAs.
Mostly the pre-OBD B16a engines are the only ones I've seen noisy LMAs on. I've never seen an OBD1 version with noisy LMAs, but admittedly I don't see a lot of swaps/hybrids any more here at the shop like I used to.
I don't know if Honda updated the LMAs after the 1992 year model, or if it is literally due to older age.
I do know that there is an actual difference in ITR LMAs though. different part number, etc. from all the other ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like a much wider 'tap' pad fwiw. Well the XSI swap I BELIEVE is a OBD0 set up, as it comes with a PR3 ecu? I'm not good with the OBD and which ecus are which, so please bear with me
Mostly the pre-OBD B16a engines are the only ones I've seen noisy LMAs on. I've never seen an OBD1 version with noisy LMAs, but admittedly I don't see a lot of swaps/hybrids any more here at the shop like I used to.
I don't know if Honda updated the LMAs after the 1992 year model, or if it is literally due to older age.
I do know that there is an actual difference in ITR LMAs though. different part number, etc. from all the other ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Looks like a much wider 'tap' pad fwiw. Well the XSI swap I BELIEVE is a OBD0 set up, as it comes with a PR3 ecu? I'm not good with the OBD and which ecus are which, so please bear with me
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Re: What years of the early b16's were known to have problematic LMAs? (ComeOnKip)
pr3 = obd0.
From pulling all 3 gens of head apart you would be right I am pretty sure the larger "tap" pad seems to be part of it, but even on itr LMAs they seem to howl with a larger cam, but that's another issue.
From pulling all 3 gens of head apart you would be right I am pretty sure the larger "tap" pad seems to be part of it, but even on itr LMAs they seem to howl with a larger cam, but that's another issue.
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Well now i'm on the fence 
if i'm looking at pulling the head off a new motor to get a quiet set of lmas (either ITRs or the new spring-type just released), thats an issue.
And I don't want to spend another $600 on a more current b16 (especially cause I'm hunting for the YS1 thats hung off the back of the XSI swap)
if i'm looking at pulling the head off a new motor to get a quiet set of lmas (either ITRs or the new spring-type just released), thats an issue.And I don't want to spend another $600 on a more current b16 (especially cause I'm hunting for the YS1 thats hung off the back of the XSI swap)
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Also, I thought there was a difference in the head if it came with the large DOHC emblem vc instead of the large VTEC emblem vc??
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Well there were also OBD1 Integra XS-i (DA) that were OBD1, but still had a cable tranny.
Easiest way I can think to tell is look at the distributor - grey plugs = OBD1; milky clearish/white plugs = pre OBD/OBD0.
If the swap has a YS1 I'm lead to believe it's not a OBD0 since the YS1 was the later cable tranny. A pre-OBD version would usually have a Y1/J1/S1.
Easiest way I can think to tell is look at the distributor - grey plugs = OBD1; milky clearish/white plugs = pre OBD/OBD0.
If the swap has a YS1 I'm lead to believe it's not a OBD0 since the YS1 was the later cable tranny. A pre-OBD version would usually have a Y1/J1/S1.
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well there were also OBD1 Integra XS-i (DA) that were OBD1, but still had a cable tranny.
Easiest way I can think to tell is look at the distributor - grey plugs = OBD1; milky clearish/white plugs = pre OBD/OBD0.
If the swap has a YS1 I'm lead to believe it's not a OBD0 since the YS1 was the later cable tranny. A pre-OBD version would usually have a Y1/J1/S1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Easiest way I can think to tell is look at the distributor - grey plugs = OBD1; milky clearish/white plugs = pre OBD/OBD0.
If the swap has a YS1 I'm lead to believe it's not a OBD0 since the YS1 was the later cable tranny. A pre-OBD version would usually have a Y1/J1/S1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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