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corser to bmw
Corser to BMW. He is going to accompany Xaus. WSBK is going to be awesome, with BMW and Ape back in the mix.
I am suprised Yamaha is going with a complete new set of people. Guinotili and someone I am guessing for the Yam's.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com...a.htm
I am suprised Yamaha is going with a complete new set of people. Guinotili and someone I am guessing for the Yam's.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com...a.htm
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Re: corser to bmw (.paul)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .paul »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Corser to BMW. He is going to accompany Xaus. WSBK is going to be awesome, with BMW and Ape back in the mix.
I am suprised Yamaha is going with a complete new set of people. Guinotili and someone I am guessing for the Yam's.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com...a.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ya, heard about Corser and Xaus (possibly but was pretty solid) going to BMW earlier in the year. Max is going to be riding the Ape. And Haga is going to Xerox
Love watching Haga ride, prob my fav wsbk rider.
I am suprised Yamaha is going with a complete new set of people. Guinotili and someone I am guessing for the Yam's.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com...a.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ya, heard about Corser and Xaus (possibly but was pretty solid) going to BMW earlier in the year. Max is going to be riding the Ape. And Haga is going to Xerox
Love watching Haga ride, prob my fav wsbk rider.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knockout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any word on KTM with the RC8 in WSBK?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Possibly 2010, not sooner than that though, def not next year.
Possibly 2010, not sooner than that though, def not next year.
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gerald did a nice review on it. he took it around new jersey thunderbolt.
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So back to the Indy GP. When I showed up at 7 am on Friday to do some demo rides I was bitterly disappointed. All of the demo rides had been canceled due to the rain. Well, since it was raining and there weren't going to be any bikes on track for awhile, I decided to stick around the KTM tent and chit chat a little bit. While I was talking to one of the reps he told me that they were probably going to be doing a demo day at New Jersey Motorsports Park with Ducati/KTM/Triumph of NYC. Imagine the ****-eating grin I had after hearing that...
So he told me to contact the general manager of the dealership. I got in touch with the dealership and they told me they were indeed having a track day at NJMP on the 22nd, but they weren't sure whether there'd be KTM's to demo ride on track. I decided to take the risk and go anyway, since at worst, I'd get some track time with the Fireblade at a nice new track.
So I packed up the 1000RR and headed on out at about 4:45 am today, not sure what to expect. I started out in beginner group as I didn't want bump myself up to the next group but after the first session I realized that beginner group was waayyyy too slow, so I went ahead and got bumped anyway.
Riding the 1000 on track wasn't such a big deal in the corners. It feels almost as light as the 600RR did, and with such friendly power delivery there was no drama coming off the turns. Like the Lightning course at NJMP, Thunderbolt is deceptively fast and it took me awhile to start taking advantage of it.
The straight at Thunderbolt is maybe about 2/3 or 3/4 the length of SP Main. It took me a few laps to get bold enough to really unleash the hounds for the full length of the straight but when I did 160 mph was coming up on the dash. I'm still being a relative ***** on the brakes because I'm not trying to fly off at turn 1.
It almost felt like cheating, having so much power. I was pulling up on the other bikes in my group in the turns as the day went on but I could really pass just about everyone on the straights. There was only one bike I couldn't do that with. And that was...a Desmosedici :shocked: I got him on the turns though.
The RC8
When I first sat on the bike I was amazed. It has a seat that is much harder than the one on my 1000RR. The edges of it are really hard and they cut into your thighs. Right off the bat this bike won't cut it for even one hour rides.
When I got it out on track it took a little bit to get used to the power delivery. As a v-twin with more torque than my 1000RR I thought it would feel stronger in the midrange but it really didn't (it does give up 20 hp to the 'Blade though). But I wouldn't call that a huge strike against this engine. There was something that was awful though...
In all of the magazine articles I'd read about the RC8 there was one complaint or another about too much vibration from the engine. I didn't think anything of it, but holy ****, it is AWFUL. From about 8k rpm on up it feels like you're holding on to a chainsaw or weedwhacker or something. This thing vibrates so bad it's almost like it's broken.
That said, the bike can really get through the corners almost as well as my bike. It turns slower, but it also feels more stable at full lean. But for a twin I'd have to say it's pretty sharp, it seems like KTM gave it fairly aggressive geometry to get it to turn in well.
The brakes have great feel, but I wasn't really hammering on them because I only had one session with it. The clutch was a bit stiff and the engagement was kind of weird. Journalists have complained about the shifter but it was no problem on track. At low speed though I had trouble getting it into neutral. It took me a good minute to get it to do what I wanted.
Overall I thought the RC8 was cool, but not worth $19,400. I haven't ridden a 1098 which would be a more direct competitor but I certainly wouldn't buy this over the Fireblade. It's a solid first try at a superbike from KTM but it needs to go back in the oven for a little refinement. And it could use a healthy scoop of more power. Supposedly KTM is working up a RC8R so maybe they'll get that handled soon. Of course, if the regular RC8 is $20,000...
So he told me to contact the general manager of the dealership. I got in touch with the dealership and they told me they were indeed having a track day at NJMP on the 22nd, but they weren't sure whether there'd be KTM's to demo ride on track. I decided to take the risk and go anyway, since at worst, I'd get some track time with the Fireblade at a nice new track.
So I packed up the 1000RR and headed on out at about 4:45 am today, not sure what to expect. I started out in beginner group as I didn't want bump myself up to the next group but after the first session I realized that beginner group was waayyyy too slow, so I went ahead and got bumped anyway.
Riding the 1000 on track wasn't such a big deal in the corners. It feels almost as light as the 600RR did, and with such friendly power delivery there was no drama coming off the turns. Like the Lightning course at NJMP, Thunderbolt is deceptively fast and it took me awhile to start taking advantage of it.
The straight at Thunderbolt is maybe about 2/3 or 3/4 the length of SP Main. It took me a few laps to get bold enough to really unleash the hounds for the full length of the straight but when I did 160 mph was coming up on the dash. I'm still being a relative ***** on the brakes because I'm not trying to fly off at turn 1.
It almost felt like cheating, having so much power. I was pulling up on the other bikes in my group in the turns as the day went on but I could really pass just about everyone on the straights. There was only one bike I couldn't do that with. And that was...a Desmosedici :shocked: I got him on the turns though.
The RC8
When I first sat on the bike I was amazed. It has a seat that is much harder than the one on my 1000RR. The edges of it are really hard and they cut into your thighs. Right off the bat this bike won't cut it for even one hour rides.
When I got it out on track it took a little bit to get used to the power delivery. As a v-twin with more torque than my 1000RR I thought it would feel stronger in the midrange but it really didn't (it does give up 20 hp to the 'Blade though). But I wouldn't call that a huge strike against this engine. There was something that was awful though...
In all of the magazine articles I'd read about the RC8 there was one complaint or another about too much vibration from the engine. I didn't think anything of it, but holy ****, it is AWFUL. From about 8k rpm on up it feels like you're holding on to a chainsaw or weedwhacker or something. This thing vibrates so bad it's almost like it's broken.
That said, the bike can really get through the corners almost as well as my bike. It turns slower, but it also feels more stable at full lean. But for a twin I'd have to say it's pretty sharp, it seems like KTM gave it fairly aggressive geometry to get it to turn in well.
The brakes have great feel, but I wasn't really hammering on them because I only had one session with it. The clutch was a bit stiff and the engagement was kind of weird. Journalists have complained about the shifter but it was no problem on track. At low speed though I had trouble getting it into neutral. It took me a good minute to get it to do what I wanted.
Overall I thought the RC8 was cool, but not worth $19,400. I haven't ridden a 1098 which would be a more direct competitor but I certainly wouldn't buy this over the Fireblade. It's a solid first try at a superbike from KTM but it needs to go back in the oven for a little refinement. And it could use a healthy scoop of more power. Supposedly KTM is working up a RC8R so maybe they'll get that handled soon. Of course, if the regular RC8 is $20,000...
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Re: (.paul)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gerald When I first sat on the bike I was amazed. It has a seat that is much harder than the one on my 1000RR.
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I didn't think anything of it, but holy ****, it is AWFUL. From about 8k rpm on up it feels like you're holding on to a chainsaw or weedwhacker or something. This thing vibrates so bad it's almost like it's broken.
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I didn't think it would be possible for another company to make a seat harder than any Honda seat
Vibration comment was hilarious.
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I didn't think anything of it, but holy ****, it is AWFUL. From about 8k rpm on up it feels like you're holding on to a chainsaw or weedwhacker or something. This thing vibrates so bad it's almost like it's broken.
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I didn't think it would be possible for another company to make a seat harder than any Honda seat
Vibration comment was hilarious.
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Looks like there still a spot for spies on the yammy sbk team.
I don't get why KTM is trying to get into the sportbike scene. They make good off-road and dual sport bikes, but what do they gain for doing this? There off-road guys aren't interested in street bikes for the most part and the dual sport guys don't want something thats so track focused. So they want to get new customers (always the most expensive way to do business) and at 20+ gs a pop it aint gonna be easy. ****, japanse liter bikes starting at 12-13 grand that perform better. I wouldn't spend that much on a bike. Who can even use most of it on a track day, let alone the street?
If I was ktoom I'd be using by mid-range twins and develop a sport touring/standard that was afforable, got good gas miliage, and didn't look like some overgrown weird dirtbike. The FZ6s, SVs and the like are sold out and go fast.
I don't get why KTM is trying to get into the sportbike scene. They make good off-road and dual sport bikes, but what do they gain for doing this? There off-road guys aren't interested in street bikes for the most part and the dual sport guys don't want something thats so track focused. So they want to get new customers (always the most expensive way to do business) and at 20+ gs a pop it aint gonna be easy. ****, japanse liter bikes starting at 12-13 grand that perform better. I wouldn't spend that much on a bike. Who can even use most of it on a track day, let alone the street?
If I was ktoom I'd be using by mid-range twins and develop a sport touring/standard that was afforable, got good gas miliage, and didn't look like some overgrown weird dirtbike. The FZ6s, SVs and the like are sold out and go fast.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like there still a spot for spies on the yammy sbk team.
I don't get why KTM is trying to get into the sportbike scene. They make good off-road and dual sport bikes, but what do they gain for doing this? There off-road guys aren't interested in street bikes for the most part and the dual sport guys don't want something thats so track focused. So they want to get new customers (always the most expensive way to do business) and at 20+ gs a pop it aint gonna be easy. ****, japanse liter bikes starting at 12-13 grand that perform better. I wouldn't spend that much on a bike. Who can even use most of it on a track day, let alone the street?
If I was ktoom I'd be using by mid-range twins and develop a sport touring/standard that was afforable, got good gas miliage, and didn't look like some overgrown weird dirtbike. The FZ6s, SVs and the like are sold out and go fast. </TD></TR></TABLE>
They're already in the "scene" as you call it by racing in the 125 and 250cc MotoGP. WSBK is only a natural progression especially since 250's are to be no more in 2011. I'm still holding back judgements on the RC8. I've read a lot of real good reviews on it.
I don't get why KTM is trying to get into the sportbike scene. They make good off-road and dual sport bikes, but what do they gain for doing this? There off-road guys aren't interested in street bikes for the most part and the dual sport guys don't want something thats so track focused. So they want to get new customers (always the most expensive way to do business) and at 20+ gs a pop it aint gonna be easy. ****, japanse liter bikes starting at 12-13 grand that perform better. I wouldn't spend that much on a bike. Who can even use most of it on a track day, let alone the street?
If I was ktoom I'd be using by mid-range twins and develop a sport touring/standard that was afforable, got good gas miliage, and didn't look like some overgrown weird dirtbike. The FZ6s, SVs and the like are sold out and go fast. </TD></TR></TABLE>
They're already in the "scene" as you call it by racing in the 125 and 250cc MotoGP. WSBK is only a natural progression especially since 250's are to be no more in 2011. I'm still holding back judgements on the RC8. I've read a lot of real good reviews on it.
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Re: corser to bmw (Jasper_db1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jasper_db1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just so we're not surprised when it comes around - who is going to attend next years WSBK race at Miller?
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Me, maybe I can get my brother to fly out here and go with me. If I can't get my brother to go, I'll be going with some peeps on a Utah moto forum, or by myself.
Oh, also, for those not in the now.
Tom Sykes and Ben Spies are the new Yamaha factory boys for wsbk 2009.
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Me, maybe I can get my brother to fly out here and go with me. If I can't get my brother to go, I'll be going with some peeps on a Utah moto forum, or by myself.
Oh, also, for those not in the now.
Tom Sykes and Ben Spies are the new Yamaha factory boys for wsbk 2009.
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