"Sand" on my #1 piston top?

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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Default "Sand" on my #1 piston top?

After 2500 miles on a fresh motor, I just removed the head to fix a valve issue on cylinder #2. Everything looks fine, but there was a little bit of grit on top of piston #1.

My first thought was that this is literally sand that got through my intake, since my driveway is a 50-ft stretch of almost beach-like sand. But what else could it be?
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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could be from the rings setting in or if you had sandblasted something like the valve cover.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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nothing was sandblasted, but the rings were all brand new. I've never heard of that.
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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when you put new rings in a freshly honed block the rings will file them selfs down to fit in the slots the go around the pistons.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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makes sense, the shavings have to go somewhere.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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well do u run an air filter?


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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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not trying to agrue with you but if sand made it threw the intake it would plug up the injectors
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well do u run an air filter?
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of course!
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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PICTURE
Its ONLY on #1, not on the others:

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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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sand?.......also did ya try to stick a maganet to it?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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It did not stick to my magnet.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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well the only way to really get sand in there would be from sandlasting. did you build the motor or did someone else?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Someone else built the head and block, I assembled the motor from the separate halves and put on all the ancillary doodads. They were told specifically not to sandblast, since it is not technically legal in my SCCA classing. I was told it was tanked. This sand looks just like the sand on the ground around here. I have recently compressed the cylinders with air, and this one was first, so maybe it happened then, I'm not sure how.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Hmm either way its odd. i know i took a valve cover to get cleaned and they used steel shoot to clean it up and i had to drill out the baffle to get the steel shot out. O did ya check your plugs? maybe one burnt up?? Hell i dont know its odd lol
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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ok i may be wrong but is part of that piston missing toward the back were it gets really black?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gearhead16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i may be wrong but is part of that piston missing toward the back were it gets really black?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is sure what it looks like....
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Heh, no its just discolored that way. I suppose that's right where the spark plug fires.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gearhead16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i may be wrong but is part of that piston missing toward the back were it gets really black?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIred91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That is sure what it looks like.... </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fireant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heh, no its just discolored that way. I suppose that's right where the spark plug fires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like its missing a chunk to me. Pick of all 4 pistons?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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seems like some one dident properly positon the piston rings
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:24 AM
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Really? How can you tell?



#2 is the only one I've started to clean, it was the reason I pulled the head... I bent a valve while I was changing the stem seals... long story... I'm a knucklehead.


Modified by fireant at 7:37 AM 9/22/2008
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