im getting my b20 soon(crosses fingers) and just wondering who out there has a nonvtec b20 and what your setup is. also what kinda power and tuning etc. everything helps. ive IMd a few people and discussed briefly, just want all the help i can get, and i know others are in the same boat as me.

 

ttt
anyone w/b20?

 

http://home.attbi.com/~kaotik_individual

 

14....WTF?

 

it is a non turbo . to me that is not that bad.

 

what altitude and tires?

 

50 feet above sea level.

street tires. (no drag radials here)

STOCK B20 (CAI only....no turbo, no exhaust, basically no mods.)

total weight at the track with me in it 2495lbs



[Modified by Kaotik Individual, 2:45 PM 7/26/2002]

 

OH....the title of the post threw me off...sorry

 

sorry I saw no one answered him...and he said he was getting a B20 soon (not when the turbo was going in) So I wanted to give him an idea.

 

anyone else?

 

Stock B20..in a '94 teg... Intake/Exhaust/FPR....Stock clutch...crappy tires on 16-inch konig's, still has ps and ac and backseats.... Ran 16.3, 16.5, then 16.1....The block was rebuilt by me with fresh internals...2 year old stock clutch...I cant seem to get my car into the 15's......The funny thing is my b20 feels a lot stronger than my ls....but when I had my ls, I ran a 15.6 with just exhaust and a filter... I dont know why... I am starting to think the block is cursed...Turbo is going on in less than two weeks...If I dont get this car into the mid 12's with 11lbs of boost on a t3/t4...and an action clutch and hondata...I am selling it... It is really getting on my nerves... I street race cars that have run low 15's and beat them but on the track this motor just sucks...

 

b20b
9.2:1 CR (je pistons)
eagle rod,
stock b20 headers,
skunk2 intake manifold,
cold air intake AEM,
gsr head,
v-afc (now sold because i will use the EMS)
in a full integra gsr street tire,
my best was 14.25@99mph with cold temperature...
when it's hot, with good traction i'm doing 14.4-14.5@97-98mph

oh sorry didn't see it was "non-vtec" ...anyway, it give you an idea with a b20/vtec


[Modified by MartGSR, 3:41 PM 7/27/2002]

 

my friends car:
1995 civic coupe w/ full interior and baby seat
b20b stock block
b20b head w/springs and retainers
ls obd 1 ecu w/ 8500 rev limit
inlinepro exhaust manifold
inlinepro sheetmetal intake manifold
440 injectors
greddy frontmount intercooler
greddy type s blow off valve
tial 40mm wastegate
turbonetics t3/4 turbo
hybrid tranny
quaiffe
clutchmasters stage 4 clutch
afc/fmu

first day at the track it went 117mph still tuning it. it goes to the dyno in about a week.

117mph is good enough for high 11's in this car.

 

keep em coming!!

 

Im hoping to get a b20 soon also and turbo it later on, so my question is which tranny do you guys use?

 

LS tranny if you are going turbo

 

Bullshit, the LS Tranny blows for everything basically.

GSR Tranny w\ Boost.

Suprdave

 

Why use the LS. Please educate me......

 

LS tranny has longer gears and helps you stay in boost longer.... GSr has shorter gears and will not keep you in boost long enough

 

LS tranny for a LS engine

GS-R tranny for a VTEC engine

Excpections:

#1) GS-R tranny on an LS engine:

A properly built LS engine that is capable of turning a higher than stock redline, say 8000 RPM? That way the gearin'g isn't so horribly short for 4th and 5th, and ecspecially on the highway. A VTEC tranny on a stock LS redline tops out MPH-wise some in the neightboor hood of 110~117 depending on tranny.

--- No i'm not talking our of may ***. I had a JDM S1 tranny(1st gen B16 = ITR gearing) on my boost LS for about a month. Trying to race and smoking 1~3 at only 6 PSI and then topping out at 110 MPH is no fun, and I hated the highway revs. ---

#2) LS tranny on a VTEC engine:

This only work better than your stock tranny is you're making close to 400HP. The longer gearing on the LS will most definately kill a B16 without enough HP. On a GS-R it's a toss up, higher top speed or faster acceleration. With the lower amount of power I'd opt for faster acceleration.


[Modified by Speed PHreak, 2:32 PM 8/2/2002]

 

so basically if your running a high revving vtec engine that is pushing over 400whp you might want the ls tranny or maybe the gsr even.
but for lower whp the b16 is better.

 

Correct -- somewhat. For the high revving engine(in general not just "VTEC") with lots of HP/TQ, the LS tranny may be better for the TRACK. If you're banging through the gears down the 1/4 fast enough to get into 5th on a VTEC(GS-R or Si) tranny, you may want to try an LS tranny. The LS tranny will top out around 120 in 4th gear @ 8000 RPM, which is nice for the strip and street if you've got the power. Remember less shifting = lower times.

However, if your power is lacking on your high revving VTEC engine then you'll prolly want to stick with your GS-R or Si tranny. I don't really like to use the short geared trannies on LS engines....that personal preference tho, if you're a built LS turn 8K or so it's up to you.



[Modified by Speed PHreak, 4:07 PM 8/2/2002]

 

my car makes 500+ to the wheels. i wouldn't even think about using a ls tranny.

 

I was joking. Trying to bring on the LS or GSR tranny debate. I would never throw a POS LS trans in my car. Gsr is the way to go if your boosting, period.
Actually a custom one would be better. Im thinking of someday throwing in ITR 3rd and 4th and an LS 5th.

 

anyone have any hard proof of one tranny being better than another in the 1/4 mile????