what belt does the f20b use... i was bout 95% sure it was a h22 but i cant seem to get the belt on. no matter how i try putting it on it seems to be to small... its pissing me off.... and if it help i converted the motor to manual tensioner, is that my problem?

 

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its h22, and trust me, its really hard to put on

take your valve cover off and the little things that go over the cam shafts, then lift the shafts up on one side to lower the side with the gears on, slip the belt on, then bolt everything back up

 

well it so much of a tight fit that i dont kno how that would work

 

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What!?!? Take the cam caps off and tilt the camshafts to get the belt on?? DO NOT do that. If the belt is that tight then something is wrong. Either it's the wrong belt or you need to reposition the tensioner to give yourself more room.

I've never done a H22 or F20B timing belt but my friends B18 was harder to install the timing belt than any SOHC I've done. But by making sure the tensioner was backed off ALL the way we were able to get the belt on ok. But you should never need to, nor should you, remove the cam caps to get the belt on.

 

Touring just owned!!

 

Is the belt a oem honda belt or a autozone special. That could be your problem if not the wrong belt.

 

i tilted my cams to get the belt on. worked like a charm

 

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How many miles since you did this?

I'd be interested in seeing how those cam caps and camshafts look now. Chances are you have some abnormal wear or something after doing that.

It's just not a good idea period, please do not advise people to use that method. How would you feel if you told someone to do that, few months later they come back saying the advise they received was incorrect resulting in damage to their head or camshafts?

 

ok yeah.. the cam tilting was a stretch lol

well i read up that you can swap the manual tensioner from the h23 onto the h22 of f20b... well i guess they make an aftermarket kit becasue the manual tensioner has a bigger pulley then the hydraulic/automatic tensioner, thats why i couldnt get the belt on
but i have it on now so thanks for the input

 

the tensioner could be bigger because it's in a slightly different location than the automatic but I've also run into tensioner diameter issues on my civic when I did the timing belt and the dealership couldn't explain why so who knows.

Glad you got it working though

 

you have to tilt the cams on an H/F when you go manual tensioner other way about it unless you pry haha ghetto! and dangerous i always had to tilt makesure you are timed correctly!!! and there is still just the right amount of play when done i used a greddy and h23 manual tensioner for 2500 miles no problems on a 8500 rpm 2.2 + .40 over pistons(88mm) and 22 psi of boost. 405 footpounds

 

The h22 belt has one less tooth than the f20 belt, but will work. Trust me, I've counted

 

just tilt the cams and get it on. then maunaly rotate the engine to make sure its on the right teeth. man

 

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I never had to remove cam caps to put a timing belt on. EVER

 

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Tilting the cams? Yikes!

What I did with my brothers F20B was this. Switched out the auto tensioner with the manual setup all new and a brand new honda H22 timing belt. To make it easier for myself i just thought of using the one part of the timing parts with the most adjustability which was the tensioner. Weird let me explain.
I had my brother hold the intake gear with a 14mm while installing the belt on both gears and everything else but the tensioner. Then, since the tensioner at this point isnt bolted to the piece that replaces the autotensioner, slid the manual tensioner towards me till i got the belt on it. then pushed them in. So instead of sliding it on the intake gear last, i slide them on the tensioner. Bam! The fastest way for me (And ive done these for a while) and all the marks lined up nothing slacking and without beating pulling prying or "cam tilting". If anyone ever has to do a T Belt on an H22 or F20B try that. You'd love it and wont ever fear of breaking or stretching things (the only way we all should be doing things)