What Headers Clear the oil pan on An Lsvtec with a GSR head? I know LS wont. Because I just tried an aftermarket LS one. But that same aftermarket LS one fits on A GSR hatch i have sitting around. And i want to make sure i get the longest one possible. I tried a B16 it clears the oilpan but its to short to reach my exhaust. Any Tips?

 

You can't mix and match the ls stock piping length with gsr/b16/itr headers. The "vtec" series catalytic converters are longer and have a different collector flange. You either need to use a LS head with ls piping or "vtec" series header's with the corresponding piping in order for it to fit correctly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mfoehrkolb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can't mix and match the ls stock piping length with gsr/b16/itr headers. The "vtec" series catalytic converters are longer and have a different collector flange. You either need to use a LS head with ls piping or "vtec" series header's with the corresponding piping in order for it to fit correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or you can get a custom exhaust done. And thats not what im asking. I dont run cats in any of my cars.


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Now Does anybody Know if the GSR's are longer Than B16? And im looking for an aftermarket header

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Or you can get a custom exhaust done. And thats not what im asking. I dont run cats in any of my cars.

Now Does anybody Know if the GSR's are longer Than B16? And im looking for an aftermarket header</TD></TR></TABLE>

--- Cat or not, you probably have a test pipe or something equal to a test pipe. It would still have to be the same length as what you had on in order for it to work, and be the same collector flange.

Like i said earlier, B18c1, B18c5, B16a, should all be the same length.

If you want to bring up the counter point of having "custom piping" that would be nullified by stating that it still has to be same basic shape of stock piping, just with a larger diameter. The length itself of the piping would still be basically the same as stock.

If i would have to put an educated guess since i don't have exact measurement's on hand.

LS/GS/RS Header = longer w/ shorter cat
ITR/GSR/SI Header = short w/ longer cat

 

Can you answer the question why i have an aftermarket header designed for an LS on a GSR and it clears the pan fine(keep in mind custom piping so length isnt the question). But on my LSV the header will not clear the pan its not tall enough.

(in a nutshell)
Ls header on GSR Clears Pan
Ls Header on LSV Wont Clear

And my next question is there a longer header that is made by an aftermarket company? That LSV had a DC sports header(dont know what its designed for) on it before and it fit perfect. The donor b16 megan racing header does not bolt up to my exhaust its about 3 in short.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you answer the question why i have an aftermarket header designed for an LS on a GSR and it clears the pan fine(keep in mind custom piping so length isnt the question). But on my LSV the header will not clear the pan its not tall enough.

(in a nutshell)
Ls header on GSR Clears Pan
Ls Header on LSV Wont Clear

And my next question is there a longer header that is made by an aftermarket company? That LSV had a DC sports header(dont know what its designed for) on it before and it fit perfect. The donor b16 megan racing header does not bolt up to my exhaust its about 3 in short.</TD></TR></TABLE>

--- Oh, you were saying length the entire time. I wasn't thinking height.

The LS oil pan is different shape than the GSR one is. (I think) So that probably has to be the factor in the situation. The stock header's are 4-2-1 so the only other option i can offer you is to get some JDM ITR or some aftermarket 4-1 header's.

I am not sure about those megan racing header's but i would guarantee you that your problem is lying in your different oil pans.

 

The Megans(from a donor B16 delsol) Clear the oil pan. They Just arnt long enough to reach the exhaust. The LS(no-name) Isnt Tall Enough to even clear the pan(cant get it to bolt up to the head even). But the LS(no-name) Will fit on my old LS Hatch and my roomates GSR Hatch clears both oil pans. But the LS(No-Name) Will not Clear the oilpan of an LSvtec with GSR head and LS Bottom End. It boggles my brain.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Megans(from a donor B16 delsol) Clear the oil pan. They Just arnt long enough to reach the exhaust. The LS(no-name) Isnt Tall Enough to even clear the pan(cant get it to bolt up to the head even). But the LS(no-name) Will fit on my old LS Hatch and my roomates GSR Hatch clears both oil pans. But the LS(No-Name) Will not Clear the oilpan of an LSvtec with GSR head and LS Bottom End. It boggles my brain. </TD></TR></TABLE>

--- The way you are stating all this is boggling my brain lol.

Megans = 4-1 or 4-2-1?
LS (no-name) = OEM? 4-1 or 4-2-1? Maybe that is for a DA b series head. I think the head on those have a different type of bolt up pattern.

GSR Hatch = The header's? or Hatch Just steal his or take his measurment's and get what he has. Are his OEM?

Since you have so many different types of header's at your exposal. Try process of elimination and get some proper measurements and see what is the difference between each other and what works and what doesn't.

 

I have two Different Ones.

The LS(no-name) 4-2-1

And the Megan 4-1

The Car had a DC 4-1 before it was stolen. But they left my exhaust.

Ls Will not bolt up because its not Tall enough To clear the oil pan and still bolt up. It hits the pan and wont bolt up becuase of that problem.

Now the LS(no-name header) Has Been on a complete LS and a complete GSR motor. Is what i was trying to say. But wont make it on the LS-vtec.

The Megan 4-1 Bolts up and clears. But its about 3-4 in. Short from bolts up to my exhaust piping.(i have a gap)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have two Different Ones.

The LS(no-name) 4-2-1

And the Megan 4-1

The Car had a DC 4-1 before it was stolen. But they left my exhaust.

Ls Will not bolt up because its not Tall enough To clear the oil pan and still bolt up. It hits the pan and wont bolt up becuase of that problem.

Now the LS(no-name header) Has Been on a complete LS and a complete GSR motor. Is what i was trying to say. But wont make it on the LS-vtec.

The Megan 4-1 Bolts up and clears. But its about 3-4 in. Short from bolts up to my exhaust piping.(i have a gap)


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--- I don't know why it would fit a complete LS and a complete GSR but not a LS.V. That is kind of odd. Maybe those Megan's are for a "vtec" series exhaust set up and that's why it is too short. Is it out of the question to just buy new LS 4-1 header's?

 

Thats what I was asking was H-T suggestion's on what Header to use. Im going to try to get my hands on another DC

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Horseofcourse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats what I was asking was H-T suggestion's on what Header to use. Im going to try to get my hands on another DC</TD></TR></TABLE>

--- That would be your best bet. If you have the money get some hytech header's. My buddy has 2 set's and the 1 is on his ITR. Those shiz's are beast. That's all i can say. Also, if you are rocking 4-1 header's. Be CAREFUL on your ride height. Those hang lower (as you experienced) and will get banged up easily.

 

Second Opinions. I want to know how aftermarket Type-r, GSR, And B16's compare to eachother in length