bought these cams a few weeks ago that i saw on craigslist. the dude said they were buddy club spec IV's, and he wanted next to nothing for 'em, so i called him up, and bought them.. got a little curious one day and started looking for "T" stamping on them, and couldnt find anything.

they have a very similar cam lobe to the spec IV's, yet no markings... i measured them against my stock GSR cams, and they were about .040" bigger.

it has the same long bulge, and then a sudden drop like on the picture..

any help appreciated.









REAL BUDDY CLUB SPEC IV's:




... im lost.

 

Are there any marks at all?

Call up buddy club and ask how to identify them.

Stop using duralast parts and are those seats covered with plastic?

 

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Call up buddy club and ask how to identify them.
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nope, i dont see any...

i did, and they said theres a "T" stamping on there, which i didnt find.... then they nicely said that if theres no T, then those arent buddy club cams.

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never! duralast is pimp

and yeah... we gotta keep our furniture clean

 

you have GM keys on your ring too

 

gm go hard.

Now can anyone help out?

 

Did you measure all the lobes? And if youo can, take a pic of the end of both cams; I only see that you posted pics of one

 

36.80 mm/ 1.445" Vtec lobe



no brand markings or anything.




Modified by fatpride111 at 2:11 PM 9/9/2008

 

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i did, and they said theres a "T" stamping on there, which i didnt find.... then they nicely said that if theres no T, then those arent buddy club cams.
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Maybe a BC4 knockoff.

The only way to really tell is with a cam-doctor type deal, or put them in an engine and get the opening/closing/duration/lift specs.

 

probably blox cams. maybe the hsl's or blox c's. i dont think they put any kinda identification on them

 

thats what my auto-lab teacher said.

we have the head off atm, about to assemble it, so we can check the lift that way.

whats cam-doctor btw?

i hope theyre not blox cams...

 

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we have the head off atm, about to assemble it, so we can check the lift that way.

whats cam-doctor btw?

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What wrong with blox cams? I've seen plenty of people make good power with them

 

i was wanting all buddy club stuff on my car.. i spent like $200 extra just to have buddy club valvetrain to go with my cams i coulda cheaped out and got skunk2's for like half the price lol.

well, i can measure the lift once i get everything on the head, but how do i measure duration?

 

talk to rocket[master of the universe] and see what he has to say about the lift and duration. you may be able to send them to him.
once you find out what they are you could sell them if your dead set on toda,but if they are c's or hsl's they will make good power,even though they are a knockoff

 

whos rocket?

my engine is going back in this weekend, so if its possible for him to give me an answer by friday that'd be awesome.

anyone got the blox specs just in case?

 

Thats some huge *** primaries lmao..
my s2s2's look almost like that, except the vtec lobe is bigger..
i think you have blox b buddies..

i never realized how big the primaries were until i looked at that pic

Those are a stage 2 cam for sure, which i dunno, but definitly along the lines of skunk2 or blox

 

damnit, I was hoping they weren't blox... Oh well... Think I should call blox and ask them if there's any kind of markings at all?

At least they're stage 2, so I'm not completly dissapointed

 

are most blox type b cams pretty much the same thing? They got "tuner series" and "competition" and the specs are near identical, but there's a 9 dollar difference between them..

 

" competition"- Cast with wider primary and secondary lobes
"tuner"-Uses OEM camshaft lobe designs, with BLOX profile specifications

I'm not sure on the rest of the specs

 

these are pretty thick. so i imagine theyre competition? *crosses fingers*

 

It's kinda hard to tell from your pics.. either it's a stage one cam with a small vtec lobe, or its a blox competition cam which is a copy of the skunk pro series with larger primaries. Either way, the vtec lobe isn't much bigger than the primary lobe. I highly doubt it's a blox stage b cam. The vtec lobe would look bigger. (or the primaries smaller)

I would also guess blox competition. Now which stage is the question....

 

i got the head off, with the cams installed.. problem is, once i turn it, i can only measure the primary lift. is there a way i can make the vtec pin engage to the rocker arms so i can get the biggest lift point measurment withOUT disassembling and taking off the cam plates?

 

Yes, search for the how-to on v2v and p2v by 12nv.

 

i did, i dont understand what he means by taking a regular bb, and installing it the rocker arm... can someone clearify this a bit. thanks

 

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you are filipino aren't you? haha

those look alot like BLOX p1 comp cams, I had a set looked just like that.

 

lol, mexican actually. but close enough... filipinians just look like stoned mexicans.

ah, so i guess theyre blox "stage 1" then?

did you notice ANY markings on them? on the tip where the "T" should have been, theres like rings on the edge... thats about any different thing i see.

the vtec lobe was actually a bit larger than the primaries compared to my stock GSR's..