i want my sh to be all motor and i wont have enough $$ for a stroke and bore kit right away so im curious on what i can do to make my engine look and perform better. i was thinkin new intake manifold, throttle body,fuel rails,cams, and cam gears. but idk what kinda of what i should get ur help is greatly appreciated

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by x19trix72x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinkin new intake manifold, throttle body,fuel rails,cams, and cam gears. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Fue rail??? well that wont net you any gains. TB, IM, cams, and cam gears??? Dont forget a tuning system for that.

How about a shot of some No2? It would be cheaper than above mentioned and faster(funner too)

 

Don't just start buying stuff if you don't know why your buying it. Read through the Prelude FAQs and find the "I'm new what can I do for more power?" thread and go from there. The SH probably has the least potential for performance improvement of any 3rd, 4th, or 5th gen Prelude because the ATTS cannot handle very much extra power.

Do you know what makes an 'SH motor' an SH motor?

 

no i do not know what makes an sh motor an sh motor but i have been wondering i dont know what the ATTS is either. im not lookin to do too much just some bolt ons

 

and on my engine block the stamp is h22a4 im guessin that is different than the h22a1? it came with **** already on it like dc ceramic headers and full stainless exhaustso idk if it had a motor swap or what help would be greatly appreciated because i could save a lot of money or need to spend more./....


Modified by x19trix72x at 6:08 PM 9/4/2008

 

Like Hawk said. Read.

Yes your SH motor is diffrent than a regular H22a1 or H22a.

But the diffrences are so small between the 2.

 

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Yes your SH motor is diffrent than a regular H22a1 or H22a.

But the diffrences are so small between the 2.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, small things like different block castings

 

But they can be interchanged between the 2 blocks for the most part.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Acidcrakker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But they can be interchanged between the 2 blocks for the most part.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The block can be interchanged?! Block casting means the actual engine block FYI. The SH block has the oil filter in a totally different position and has lots of provisions for the ATTS unit and even the intermediate shaft has different mounting points. There's more I'm sure...

 

i have heard the cams are slightly different in the SH block than in the base. if your looking for power go with an elmination kit but the SH is not the ideal car to heavly mod.

 

Hasnt there been a few people who have done a H22a head on the h22a4 block. Thats more what Im reffering to.

 

It all depends on $$$$$$$

Used VAFC and an hour on the dyno......Most fun you can have for $200.
OR
Used Cold Air Intake, used vafc and an hour on the dyno.......
Notice a trend there?

 

so basically everything i have read about the sh and its atts system i should just leave it be and drive it the way it is but should i chose to swap to a motor and tranny that is more "tuneable" what would you guys suggestions be, b/c im in the process of finding and installin a new motor and if i can do the change up now is the time to do it u know what i mean or do i sound like a fool lol? b/c as is im only gonna do exterior mods and like a skunk2 intake manifold maybe som ignition work but it cannot run more than 200hp from what i read so....my dabocal

 

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FYI, ignition parts do nothing on H-series engines unless you are making so much power (around 350 or so) that the stock system is too weak to handle it.

 

that was some real useful knowledge i almost jus bought mad ignition parts thanx dude, i have come to the conclusion that i will keep it pretty much stock and spend all my money on suspension & handling

 

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2008 Noob of the Year award! Thats one of the best replies I have seen yet after almost 10yrs in this Honda world.
Great idea....let me know if I can help. Whether its for the street or track, chances are I have done it, thought about doing and/or decided not to do it.

 

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GREAT decision! You don't see this kind of wisdom in this forum much.

Even when you need to tune, just get Greddy Emanage Ultimate as it can tune fuel and ignition indpendently of the map signal. ATTS is great, and better than a torsen (like Quaife) type lsd imo if you're not going to be drag racing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't just start buying stuff if you don't know why your buying it. Read through the Prelude FAQs and find the "I'm new what can I do for more power?" thread and go from there. The SH probably has the least potential for performance improvement of any 3rd, 4th, or 5th gen Prelude because the ATTS cannot handle very much extra power.

Do you know what makes an 'SH motor' an SH motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ATTS is affected by high amounts of tq rather than hp. NA wise, you won't have any issues unless you have some type of ridiculous 2.6l motor like Scott's. Even then it'd probably be ok since many people run jrsc's without issues.

 

im gonna stick to my original plan of just makin it breathe better port and polish, intake manifold greddy emanage ultimate black box not blue lol...and a few other little things and spend the majority on handling and visual and stereo i love bass it keeps me from getting tickets

 

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ATTS is affected by high amounts of tq rather than hp. NA wise, you won't have any issues unless you have some type of ridiculous 2.6l motor like Scott's. Even then it'd probably be ok since many people run jrsc's without issues.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Has anyone really tested them yet to see what it can truely handle ? I know a few months back there was a big discussion on this.