Well I did search and read just about every thread concerning h22a swaps, but nearly all of them are coming from an h23 to h22. My Prelude is an all stock 93 VTEC. I have a service manual and if there is a part in there about swaps, I don't know what page it's on. I'm going to buy the engine and trans from tigerjapanese for $1800-ish shipped. I just want to make sure it's not a waste of money by buying it and being confused as hell and not putting it in. (it's my first time ) Thanks.


Modified by RyanStevenPhillips at 5:59 PM 10/2/2008

 

just label everything in plastic bags and label the wires. Everything should work fine.

 

pshhhh just do it.

 

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Best advice I've ever had... thanks *******!

 

anything for an earth worm jim fan!

 

Did you blow the motor? Why are you changing out practically the same motor?

 

I need a new trans anyways. I've got the extra cash and the one I have has some fuel supply problem that I can't figure out. If I don't sell the one in it I'm just going to put it in a civic or something. It sounds retarded but I've got to do something to keep me entertained.

 

so your asking for help on a H22a1 to H22a swap.

But if this doesnt work, your going to put this motor in a civic.

Wonders Never Cease to Amaze Me

 

It never ceases to amaze me of how much of an *** you are. Let me break it down for you so you can bitch some more about work people are doing instead of concentrating on your own ****.

1. I'm buying a new engine no matter what.

(are you still following me...)

2. I'm putting the new engine in my Prelude. I've never done a swap before so I'm asking for advice since I'm not 98VTEC. I'm not asking for sarcasm.

3. I want to fix the engine currently in my Prelude so if I sell it I'm not stiffing someone. (I'm sure you're such a nice guy you'd do the same) And if I don't sell it, I'm going to buy a civic shell and put the old engine in it.

That's it. Did you follow me? I wasn't asking for someone to come and be a sarcastic *****, I was asking for advice. But of course... I get you. When I want advice from someone who tends to [freak] up cars and then give up I'll give you a PM. Thanks. (https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2342679)

This is not a BB1 that's going to be gave up on. I just want some advice about doing an h22a swap. I'm sure it's just a plug and play but I don't know what I'm unplugging. Just looking for a write up or brief description.

 

Wow your a little loser who gets but hurt way too much.

and its called learning you little *****. You are going to break something along the way. Its what you do where the actuall learning takes place. Like fixing the motor with broken allen wrench in it.

 

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pwned jooo

 

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pwned jooo</TD></TR></TABLE>

He didnt pawn ****. This little herb may think he knows me and what I do in my spare time, by mere threads created by me. Well like all mislead fools they end up in the middle of nowhere.

He takes himself to serious, he cant tell the diffrence between someone just russeling his feathers and some actually being an ***. Its light fun, I suggest he learns to have it, especially if he wants help in the future.

 

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He didnt pawn ****. This little herb may think he knows me and what I do in my spare time, by mere threads created by me. Well like all mislead fools they end up in the middle of nowhere.

He takes himself to serious, he cant tell the diffrence between someone just russeling his feathers and some actually being an ***. Its light fun, I suggest he learns to have it, especially if he wants help in the future.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you got PWNED big time! Man up and apologize

 

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No, you got PWNED big time! Man up and apologize </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha, was good, but totally uncalled for. Im not apoliging, for I did nothing wrong.

 

I don't need an apology from this guy. Thanks for trying though. My little herb heard is broken beyond all repair. Not even Hondabond can hold it together from that...

Let's just put that behind us. There has to be someone out there who has done this before. I guess it really is that easy.

 

only differnce from the 2 if you got a 95 and older is the h22a has a internal coil while the h22a1 is extranal. when you take the old one out put the new one in the same way dont even switch the ecu.

 

Its not that complicated. Just take the following off your USDM motor and put it on the JDM motor.

1. Fuel rail
2. USDM wire harness
3. USDM coil and Dizzy
4. Remove JDM map sensor on TB( Matter of fact put the USDM TB on there instead)

And poof thats it. Since your so fond of searching my screen name, search my How to pull a motor thread. You will find that usefull when pulling the wire harness.

 

I'll say thank you for that. There is some useful information for me there. You should have just said that in the first place!

 

Okay, well I bought an h22a with m2b4 trans from Hmotors, and I'm almost done installing except for a few things:

What the hell do I do with the IAB solenoid and Vacuum tank from the USDM (on the bottom of the intake manifold) since it doesn't fit on the JDM? Do I just plug everything in an just not have it bolted in?

Acid- Even if I'm going from h22a1 to h22a, do I have to do that distributor thing? I haven't got to that part yet. (thanks for the write up, AC fan has long four bolts and comes right out. I don't remember if you had that in there.)

other than that, the thing is tip top. Any advice is helpful now. ALMOST DONE!

 

my best advice is to make the JDm motor look like the usdm. Converting everything on it over to usdm. You can keep the dizzy thats easy to do a JDM conversion.

And IAB sensor, I never had that connected when I did my JDM swap. I still dont know its purpose on the usdm, cause On JDM setup the motor functioned fine.

The IAB sensor actually isnt a sensor. It works off manifold pressure. That little mushroom thing on the right side of the plennum is what operates the IAB. Which are the butterfly valves in the secondary runners, and is connected to a vaccum hose.

The USDM cars I think put a stupid little black vaccum tank and sensor on the bottom of the IM. It comes with a sensor thing. But I found it to be useless.


Modified by Acidcrakker at 3:40 PM 9/28/2008

 

there isnt any difference between the motors other than the distributor IIRC. (jdm being internal coil and USDM being external coil).


put the USDM distributor on the JDM motor and be done with it. Everything else will be plug and play for the most part.

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1. I'm buying a new engine no matter what.

(are you still following me...)

2. I'm putting the new engine in my Prelude. I've never done a swap before so I'm asking for advice since I'm not 98VTEC. I'm not asking for sarcasm.

That's it. Did you follow me? I wasn't asking for someone to come and be a sarcastic *****, I was asking for advice. But of course... I get you. When I want advice from someone who tends to [freak] up cars and then give up I'll give you a PM. Thanks. (https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2342679)

This is not a BB1 that's going to be gave up on. I just want some advice about doing an h22a swap. I'm sure it's just a plug and play but I don't know what I'm unplugging. Just looking for a write up or brief description. </TD></TR></TABLE>

EPIC!!!

omg, i havent laughed that hard in a long long time from a post by a noob.

Have some confidence in yourself man. IF need be, get some tape and mark each coordinating connector and sensor with the same color. Or draw a picture and label it using the wire colors.

 

Well, I'm stumped. I realized that there are two of the IAB tanks in there. There was one on the passenger side mount and there was one on the bottom of the intake manifold. I've hooked them both up the way they were before the swap. Hopefully everything works okay. I was getting a CEL 43 (I think) so, who knows. There's got to be something screwed up in there.

Also, if I swap distributors, am I going mess up the distributor timing or something like that? ?

 

your only a month or so late on that post

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanStevenPhillips &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I'm stumped. I realized that there are two of the IAB tanks in there. There was one on the passenger side mount and there was one on the bottom of the intake manifold. I've hooked them both up the way they were before the swap. Hopefully everything works okay. I was getting a CEL 43 (I think) so, who knows. There's got to be something screwed up in there.

Also, if I swap distributors, am I going mess up the distributor timing or something like that? ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the passenger side mount is for the valve on the stock intake system that helps the engine warm up faster. The one under the intake manifold is for the IAB's.

43 is the fuel supply system. Make sure you have the injector clips ordered correctly and that the resistor that powers the injectors is connected.

 

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yea, makes it even funnier that i could have laughed just as hard a month ago...