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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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Recently i've been having a lot of problems putting my car into reverse. Its a 94 civic 5sp. I've tried many things like putting the shifter into 1st then reverse, 2nd then reverse, 1st then 2nd then reverse, and putting it into reverse while moving forward at <1mph. Could this be a clutch master/slave cylinder problem, clutch itself or something internal in the transmission? All the other gears feel fine, maybe a little notchy. Trans fluid was changed 2 years ago when i change the input shaft bearing. Clutch feels a little soft and has probably 25k - 30k miles on it. What do you guys think?
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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mine doesnt do that sometimes, like it wont go in reverse and when it does it has this grinding noise what i do is i put it in fifth then neutral then reverse and it works fine so try that
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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my 98 ex does the same thin... i usually just put it into random gears then reverse and it just eventually goes in
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOUBLExDEUCEx22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my 98 ex does the same thin... i usually just put it into random gears then reverse and it just eventually goes in</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i've been doing, but that isn't how it should be. I am looking for a way to possibly cure the problem instead of just finding ways to live with it.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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dropping it into fourth at a stop then into reverse isn't that big a deal - I think its because of the fact that there is no synchro for reverse
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ8_Enthusiast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dropping it into fourth at a stop then into reverse isn't that big a deal - I think its because of the fact that there is no synchro for reverse</TD></TR></TABLE>

true, but it has never done this until about a month ago
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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mine either does it flawlessly or bithes and grinds i found that the first gear roll up a foot then double clutch it to reverse works the best
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cypher0117 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Recently i've been having a lot of problems putting my car into reverse. Its a 94 civic 5sp... What do you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I had this problem from day-1 with my D16Y5. Changed to Red Line MTL tranny fluid @ 15k and it helped a lot, but it never totally went away.

What I used to do is put it into reverse as far as it would go - let the clutch out a LITTLE while keeping pressure on the shifter - then push the clutch back in. That usually popped it all the way into reverse. This problem used to kinda come n' go for no reason. Weird!

Never had this problem with my B16A2...

I think it's just luck of the draw!
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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how loose is your shifter? i've had this problem in mine, put ALL new bushings in, and it went in reverse easily! whenever i park i leave it in first, then when i back up i put it in Reverse.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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its just the way reverse is in honda's, you should change the tranny fluid it might help a little other then that, i would get use to it.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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^It's true! The reverse idler gear is not synchro'd thus grinding sometimes...like I did this morning. LOL When my two Civics won't go immediately into reverse I throw it into 1st and ever so slightly pull it forward. While it's moving throw it into reverse...works 100% of the time.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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it just depends on where i parked if i can get it in or not, since i live on a hill. if i ever have a problem, i just let out on the clutch a little and push it back in
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 04:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk92_d16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> When my two Civics won't go immediately into reverse I throw it into 1st and ever so slightly pull it forward. While it's moving throw it into reverse...works 100% of the time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That doesn't always work for me.

I checked my bushings on the shifter and they look alright. Not very much play. Although i don't really know what a bad bushing would be like.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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hondas shifter bushings are tight( dont wobble very much), if you have any play they are usually wore out. or if you can move the shifter while in a gear ( left to right).
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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is it a swap cuz if so make sure ur linkage is right and you have good bushings cuz if not it will affect your shifting but most honda trannys do have this problem due to the lack of syncros in reverse, best way i found to get into reverse is 1st then reverse but like i said CHECK BUSHINGS! o and short shifters will cause this problem as well!! O AND CHANGE THE DAMN TRANS FLUID EVERY 15K!!! YOU WANNA RUIN IT OR KEEP IT? 2YRS DAMN MAN YOU SHOULD TAKE BETTER CARE OF THAT RIDE!!!!
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blk92_d16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^It's true! The reverse idler gear is not synchro'd thus grinding sometimes...like I did this morning. LOL When my two Civics won't go immediately into reverse I throw it into 1st and ever so slightly pull it forward. While it's moving throw it into reverse...works 100% of the time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

always works for me too. lol
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pothole987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hondas shifter bushings are tight( dont wobble very much), if you have any play they are usually wore out. or if you can move the shifter while in a gear ( left to right).</TD></TR></TABLE>

that might be my problem, while in gear and moving the shifter can move left and right, probably about a half inch in either direction.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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I have yet to see worn out shifter bushings prevent a honda from going into reverse, and I've seen shifters that were so loose you thought they were in neutral. They still shift fine, its just a little tricky to find the gears.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Sounds normal to me. Change your tranny fluid with Honda's new formula and it will help some. As ^^^ said, your reverse gear in hondas do not have syncros, so it your situation sounds normal.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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i changed my shifter bushings and my transmission fluid. Everything seems to work a lot better but still occasionally has trouble getting in reverse.
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