I have a US b16 stock besides DC headers, that came on it, and i want to buil it for all motor. First I want to do all bolt ons and stuff, I just am looking for a 200whp in the end. What bolt ons would be a good mix in a setup that is very effective and can get me to produce upwards of my goals. I was first thinking of a skunk2 IM a TB and intake, dont know if skunk2 IM is good enough or too good or which TB or intake to get. Then i was thinking of a toda or hytech header. Then after that idk where to go, either do the fuel system or ignition or what components i sohuld be using to make it all effective. Any pointers or suggestions would be great.

 

looks like you got a long ways ahead of u... i would swap the b16 block out first for a b20. a complete fully build on a b16 isnt worth it. you probably wont even make 200whp on a complete built b16. Definatly get a b20 block and shove some pistons rods and rod bolts in it. So much you can do and so many options keep searching and researching but i def. wouldnt build an all motor b16.

 

that is in the future for me, im just gonna push the b16 till i can no longer go with it and down the road i would have to get a bigger bottom end, i know the 1.6 doesnt cut it but im stuck for now.

 

actually i guess you could get 200whp out of a complete b16 but its tough and a b20 will give you more hard to get torque...

 

If you want to stick with the B16, you shoud check this out:
http://www.intertune.tv/

 

It's gonna take a big bank role and ALLOT of trial & error. I would suggest using the Toda header though, do NOT use a long tube manifold(i.e. Hytech). Good luck.

 

BPi velocity stack, 3" intake, OEM throttle body bored to 65mm, Skunk2 Intake Manifold, Hytech replica header, or TODA if you can afford it. Stay away from the big tube variants. Test Pipe, and 3" exhaust and my reccommendation for cams would be Pro 1s. My friend has the following, aem cai, skunk2 intake manifold, JDM ITR header, skunk2 pro 1s, skunk2 valvetrain, high flow cat, 2.25" exhaust tuned on B.R.E. and made 176whp at stock compression and head port, you can obviously see where his short comings are.

 

he is giving up power in the throttle body, intake, and exhaust system, the header won't help him achieve his goal either. The car is still quick being an EF, but after we swap to those things, we are gonna go for another retune and see where we get.

 

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please keep updated when he gets it retuned, it might answer a few of my questions ive been looking for.
my thread https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2373156

not to threadjack, but all this would benefit the op and pretty much answer his questions , that link has my current b16 setup and would show him what he can do to his b16 to get his goal of 200whp, as i am expecting similar or atleast close to that with my b16.

 

Aaaaaaaand here comes the "formula's" on how to make 200 with a B16.

 

if i use a skunk2 IM what size TB should i use. My one friend was telling me a 68mm but i just want to ask around. Thanks for all of your suggestions. They are helping me a lot.

 

also what intake to use with the bpi velocity stack. soon as i know what intake IM and TB to use and sizes im gonna order it up.

 

My suggestion of using a 64-65mm throttlebody should be fine. I had one extremely reputable tuner advise me on it. I would make a custom 3" intake out of some piping, but make one or two of them with different lengths, some motors like the pipe longer and some like them shorter. I believe someone mentioned a good starting point was about 800mm.

 

yea i realize my mistakes now, i'm wrong and inaccurate on my "calculations" heh, i kinda feel like an idiot lol.

 

200whp from a B16 is hard. Be prepared to spend a minimum of around 2000 on headwork, cams and valvetrain. Im going to be honest, Im in the same boat as you. I love my B16 but it lacks the one think I want, low end tq. And I dont mean this in terms of racing but for daily driving for lets say when your doing a lane change. You have to get near 6000rpms just to get it moving. I say go GSR or LSVtec. You can find and build shortblocks for nearly dimes on the dollar if you live in a rural area.

 

i agree with you, but thanks to having a crx the b16's weakness isnt exploited so much. its actually very responsive for me, even when stock. i believe the op drives a coupevthough , so yea a block swap would be a great way to start performance upgrades if willing. there are awesome and plentiful threads on how to build reliable lsv's and b20vtec setups if you do a simple search for them. it might not be the route u want to take for power, but its atleast very worthwhile to look into at the least. And it will make reaching your whp goal a tad bit easier.

 

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If I tell you a friend get 202 with a stock b16a2 block you will think I'm a liar

 

stock b16 making power to 9500?

 

what's the setup?

 

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I said stock blockk! no a stock engine, the power comes from the head and parts combination + tuning

 

Best Bang for the Buck

B20 Block w/ rs pistons + headers + intake + chipped ecu = over 200whp

 

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B20 Block w/ rs pistons + headers + intake + chipped ecu = over 200whp </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with this setup, seen it make consistently over 200whp. the only concern I have with doing B20VTECs is the rod stroke ratio changes.