Trying to select the best intake for my b16a build? fairly big cams 12mm lift 284 durr approx. Am aiming for mimimum ( obviously going to be very peaky ) 200whp. i already have a b16a1 intake , and may have access to an itr one - however edelbrock do a couple but i have heard mixed reviews from all of them. a 65mm throttlebody should be enough too?
ideas?
Regards
mark

 

A.E.B.S is the best bang for the $ on anything less than 210-215WHP. Edelbrock Victor X is to big for what you are trying to do!!! BTW you can get the aebs for 150-170 ish!!!

 

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I agree. Edelbrock is a little extreme on your build. Along with A.E.B.S, id suggest Skunk2 Pro Series manifold for the B16's (Part #-307-05-0290), those work best when your putting out anywhere from 200whp to about 400whp, just see what you think will work best for you. I had Skunk2 on my B16 and the results were good. Some people even p&p the stock B16 manifold...

 

hhmmmm
theres one on ebay listed for the b18c4 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-Ci...0.m14

not sure if i t will fit mine though? we are talking all motor on these suggestions also, right? i thought the edelbrock was for bigger displacemnet engines + turbo?

 

Intake or Intake Manifold? Everyone has been responding manifold right outta the gate??

 

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I agree. Edelbrock is a little extreme on your build. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I disagree. The "Victor X" would be overkill yes, but I think the "Performer X" would be just fine with future upgrades in mind.

To the O.P. - your stock TB is fine. If you're looking for PEAK horsepower, switch to the R manifold. If you want a more usable powerband, your stock manifold will dominate anything else out there...tuned or not. Stock B16A IM's are pretty amazing, yet extremely overlooked. A IM may not be your next "upgrade"....but thats just my opinion.

 

yeah i was talking about intake manifold.
ok when you say the type r manifold - wouldnt the skunk2 one be better? ( looking for top end power mainly )
regarding the tb , the stock tb surely wouldnbt flow enough for over 200whp on a n/a b16 ?
regards
mark

 

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I disagree. The "Victor X" would be overkill yes, but I think the "Performer X" would be just fine with future upgrades in mind.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agreed in ways of the Victor X being to big for his build, the Performer X would be just fine. Thanks for correcting Clean Rice...

 

go jdm type r ill sell you mine i made 226 on a stock itr manifold on my b20 vtec... im pulling it off to go bigger its for sale... lol and it made peak power at 9000 rpms

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I disagree. The "Victor X" would be overkill yes, but I think the "Performer X" would be just fine with future upgrades in mind.

To the O.P. - your stock TB is fine. If you're looking for PEAK horsepower, switch to the R manifold. If you want a more usable powerband, your stock manifold will dominate anything else out there...tuned or not. Stock B16A IM's are pretty amazing, yet extremely overlooked. A IM may not be your next "upgrade"....but thats just my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE> Agreed, but Im not a big fan of Edelbrock in the all-motor R&D that they do. Both of the manifolds were developed with forced induction in mind! I just think that a performer X will still have to big of a chamber for you torqueless wonder!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b20vtecoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go jdm type r ill sell you mine i made 226 on a stock itr manifold on my b20 vtec... im pulling it off to go bigger its for sale... lol and it made peak power at 9000 rpms </TD></TR></TABLE>

same with me lol we have almost the same numbers only my peak power was 8800

 

damn 164 ft. lbs?? thats crazy where did you get that 10 more than me lol

 

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I had a USDM Type-R in a '92 EG and it was great (before the oil pump went), i wanna go something with a high rev and a short stroke. What are you selling yours for???, i may reconsider the R motor, i just gotta locate a shell...

 

vtec coupe how much you after for inlet mani?
those who say performer x will be better , i thought it was suited to apllications under 7000rpm ? dont edelbrock say victor x better for 7000-9000rpm?

 

blindside... im sellin a type r manifold not a motor but they recommend the peformer x for peak power gains around 7 and the victor x for peaker power gains like 7000 to 10000 im pretty sure. Basically the victor x is a big boy mani for a bigger motor. but let me think of a price for my type r and ill let you know ill rip that bitch off.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b20vtecoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blindside... im sellin a type r manifold not a motor but they recommend the peformer x for peak power gains around 7 and the victor x for peaker power gains like 7000 to 10000 im pretty sure. Basically the victor x is a big boy mani for a bigger motor. but let me think of a price for my type r and ill let you know ill rip that bitch off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, Manifold. Not a motor, hahaha. I misread that, sry. But yea they recommend the Performer X for a mild built motor (Built head and agressive cams), i was gonna get that for my motor, but as i was gonna buy it the motor went dead...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.Burner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Both of the manifolds were developed with forced induction in mind!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not according to them: http://www.edelbrock.com/autom...shtml

Like it or not, Edelbrock has been building intake manifolds for YEARS, I think they know a thing or two about what they are doing. Many people here on the board have exprerienced nice gains in .8's and larger. Not sure about a 1-6?

I'm curious to know what the o.p. has to think that he is going to acheive 200 whp, besides high compression and big cams.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xchipx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vtec coupe how much you after for inlet mani?
those who say performer x will be better , i thought it was suited to apllications under 7000rpm ? dont edelbrock say victor x better for 7000-9000rpm?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just took off my slightly ported Blox for a performer x

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b20vtecoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn 164 ft. lbs?? thats crazy where did you get that 10 more than me lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

Prolly in my spark header/ported Intake

 

nice... im pullin my type r off wen i stop being os lazy and im grabbing the victor x... and prob a skunk or blox 70mm throttle body and a hytech header... hoping to put some nice gains we will see

 

bet you make less power with the victor X then what you have now....

 

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Not according to them: http://www.edelbrock.com/autom...shtml

Like it or not, Edelbrock has been building intake manifolds for YEARS, I think they know a thing or two about what they are doing. Many people here on the board have exprerienced nice gains in .8's and larger. Not sure about a 1-6?

I'm curious to know what the o.p. has to think that he is going to acheive 200 whp, besides high compression and big cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
STFU you know we dont know what we're talking about on here.. even if you provide proof YOUR WRONG..

oh btw.. morning ricer

 

victorX was made with 2.0+liter motors or forced induction in mind because of the huge plenum, and short FAT runners..
Shoving alot of air into one place and then getting rid of it quickly and evenly..

the performerX was made with 1.6/1.8/1.9 liter motors that were midly built all motor wise and taking advantage of people using whats called scavering.. while creating a good vaccum through the motor it creates a vaccum you on the induction system of the motor helping air flow and pulling a steady flow of air and creating the proper length and air wave threw the longer medium size runners..

you get the idea..

 

ok 1. i am running a 2.0 liter motor... guy and 2 the victor x has been proven to make power on all motor setups. so me making less power... highly unlikely.. guyy

 

might do good with the skunk pro series.

 

Idk how much better the skunk is over the itr they are very similiar, i belive the skunk copied the itr and maybe made a lil better but im not sure.