Im almost finished my build and now im trying to decide between 2 cams. Skunk2 pro 1's or pro 2's. Ill be running 12.0 compression, and the head has a awesome port job. (+ valve train to handle either). Are the pro 2's gonna be too much? Or will the cam be worth every cent???? Experienced builder answers only please!!! thanx

 

whats the set-up?

 

Pro2's have shown to make good power in every dyno posted so far- even on stock compression.

 

an experienced engine builder would tell you that since you posted this question on a Honda forum, you should have tried to do a search on your question first to see if it has already been answered before. Since you obviously didn't do this (this question has been answered before), an experienced engine builder would say: If you're going to ask a question like this in an open forum, to make sure you've given all the relevent build information such as DISPLACEMENT before you expext any kind of educated answer.

 

B18c stock bottom end with a refresh and 12.0 compression pistons. The head will be a full race port head with stock size valves (all ferra valve train). Skunk2 pro series manifold, 70mm TB, hytech header and a velocity stack.

 

I have looked into it, i was just asking if anyone has used these cams before, preferably someone with experience. Sorry if this affended you there buddy!


Modified by Dirty_SL8 at 11:33 AM 8/25/2008

 

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Although I'm not very sure if those cams are overcammed for your setup, I would also like to bring up the TB size choice. I think, IMO for your build a 70mm is too much. Perhaps a 65mm or 68mm at most will be a better choice.

 

pro2's will make good power, but you're going to end up reving the **** out of it (9500rpms at least) so make sure you're comfortable with that.

i dont like pro1 cams at all.

buddy club 3+ would be a good choice.

 

I was told the same thing by a few guys, but my engine builder said just to go 70 because my future build will be way more serious. He said with tuning and a good intake set up ill be fine. So i guess we shall see. Thanx for the insight the bud.

 

Thats about what i was thinking for rpm. Why do u not like the pro 1's, and would you say that the buudy club 3's are equal to pro 2's as far as being aggresive?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dirty_SL8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats about what i was thinking for rpm. Why do u not like the pro 1's, and would you say that the buudy club 3's are equal to pro 2's as far as being aggresive?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pro2s are much more aggressive than buddy club spec 3+s. Spec3s favor a beefier midrange more than top end, a more usable powerband if you're say road racing the car but I know you're focused on having this car be a drag car and it never seeing less than 7000rpm while racing so I'd go with something along the lines of pro1s/rocket m24s/buddy club 4s.

You can check out/compare cam specs here:
http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=371


Jdogg, I'm also curious as to why you don't like pro1s.


Modified by BMo Tuning at 12:19 PM 8/25/2008


Modified by BMo Tuning at 12:20 PM 8/25/2008

 

i went with s2s2. my car weighs 2500, with a 1.8L, these cams have more power all around compared to my old CTR cams. great idle, power peaks at 8k, and great power band overall



perhaps pro 1 or pro2 would give me like 2-5 hp somewhere in the mix, but with milder primaries is easier on your valvetrain. maybe if it was a 10-12hp difference it'd be worth it to me, but i cant imagine your car being .5 quicker in the 1/4 from a s2s2 to s pro 1


Modified by oldskool teggy at 9:56 AM 8/25/2008

 

Cool. Thanx for the insight bud. Ill def. have to do some more research.

 

i dont like pro1's because the last 3 or 4 setups i have dyno'd w/pro1's made more power from idle to redline with pro2's

2 high compression 1.8liter motors and a mild compression 2liter motor.

the 2liter motor had the biggest difference.. about 20hp and 15ft/lbs of torque

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont like pro1's because the last 3 or 4 setups i have dyno'd w/pro1's made more power from idle to redline with pro2's

2 high compression 1.8liter motors and a mild compression 2liter motor.

the 2liter motor had the biggest difference.. about 20hp and 15ft/lbs of torque</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd expect the pro2s to much better for a 2liter so those numbers aren't that surprising but the fact that the pro2s made more power from idle to redline on 3 different 1.8s is making me think about pro2s.

 

Right on. How are they on the street though? I hear you can run into problems just keeping the car running and such!

 

i run buddy club spec 4's and they are amazing. they run better with high compression and make power really high, my peak is up around 9000.

 

driveability??

 

amazing cars daily driver never an issuse...

 

226 whp 12.5 cr in a b20 block b16 head fully built.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b20vtecoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i run buddy club spec 4's and they are amazing. they run better with high compression and make power really high, my peak is up around 9000. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what does the useful power look like?

 

ok kool. im gonna look into those!!!

 

best bit of advice i can give you, make sure you get something like hondata to tune, and run a set of cams that your tuner knows well. great cams mean crap if your tuner cant tune them. once again, with that higher tier camshaft, unless you are racing in a semi-pro or pro and looking for every last but of HP, for the most part any of those cams will get you in the right ballpark of 190-210 whp