I'm looking for aftermarket valve keepers to use in my b20vtec build. I plan on using stock valves for the time being...

I've heard crower and some other companies make them, but I can not find anything.

Anyone know?

 

crower doesn't use them...Manley is the only one you can use with most retainers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HEAD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">crower doesn't use them...Manley is the only one you can use with most retainers.</TD></TR></TABLE>Ok, so Crower doesn't make them? I found some links where they had 10 degree keepers, but I believe those were only for use with Crowers valves... so Manleys I can use with stock valves?

 

I have used OEM keepers on both Farrera (sp) and Manly both with Crower retainers.

OEM is all you need.

As far as I know we're going to use OEM on the Hot Rod engine. I'll ask rota92 next time I see him.

 

you certainly cannot use a stock keeper with the Ferrea retainer, there retainer is set up for there keeper only, and is longer then the factory lock to take pressure away from the valve tip..You CAN use a factory keeper with any of the other mentioned brands, but we don't..especially with boost. The valve can sometimes pull through the retainer, crowers are actually the biggest offender of that!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cpt. xThread &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, so Crower doesn't make them? I found some links where they had 10 degree keepers, but I believe those were only for use with Crowers valves... so Manleys I can use with stock valves?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 10 degree locks you are seeing a link for with Crower is there domestic lock. Honda is a 7 degree lock..and yes, you can use the Manley with the factory valve.

 

OK OP why don't you use OEM keepers ? Your using OEM valves?

Why do you want after market keepers?

I must be missing something.

We ran Crower retainers and springs with both Ferrera and Manly valves with on issues. engine was spinning to 9500rpm. That was on a D series.

 

from what i gather,the oem ones are stamped peices while the manleys are machined for less size variation. i dont know wether the ti-retainer holes are slightly bigger or if some titanium is soft [why they sometimes pull through]. maybe head will chime back in to shed some light.
i went with crower chrome-moly retainers and manley locks on my n/a setup. there only 60$ for all 16 valves its cheap insurance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have used OEM keepers on both Farrera (sp) and Manly both with Crower retainers.

OEM is all you need.

As far as I know we're going to use OEM on the Hot Rod engine. I'll ask rota92 next time I see him.

</TD></TR></TABLE>A lot of guys around town have tried using tired old stock units and in my opinion as a result dropped a valve, or 5. I figure its kinda like a cheap insurance.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HEAD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you certainly cannot use a stock keeper with the Ferrea retainer, there retainer is set up for there keeper only, and is longer then the factory lock to take pressure away from the valve tip..You CAN use a factory keeper with any of the other mentioned brands, but we don't..especially with boost. The valve can sometimes pull through the retainer, crowers are actually the biggest offender of that!

The 10 degree locks you are seeing a link for with Crower is there domestic lock. Honda is a 7 degree lock..and yes, you can use the Manley with the factory valve.</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks for clearing that up. A sponsor has supertech springs, AL retainers nad keepers for $289 shipped. What do you think of AL retainers on a B20V that'll spin to 8600, maybe 9000?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OK OP why don't you use OEM keepers ? Your using OEM valves?

Why do you want after market keepers?

I must be missing something.

We ran Crower retainers and springs with both Ferrera and Manly valves with on issues. engine was spinning to 9500rpm. That was on a D series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dropped valves are becoming common for some reason on all most all builds around here. I dont know whats up and I Dont want to fall victim to it. So I figure while everything is still in the planning stages, might was well do some research to see if I can combat valve train failure.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4g hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i gather,the oem ones are stamped peices while the manleys are machined for less size variation. i dont know wether the ti-retainer holes are slightly bigger or if some titanium is soft [why they sometimes pull through]. maybe head will chime back in to shed some light.
i went with crower chrome-moly retainers and manley locks on my n/a setup. there only 60$ for all 16 valves its cheap insurance.</TD></TR></TABLE>Awesome thanks for the input!

 

Here, rlzengineering@yahoo.com

Email Brad. He does our heads, I do what he says.

 

Supertec has both 7 and 10 degree.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Supertec has both 7 and 10 degree.</TD></TR></TABLE>I found a sponsor on here who has them, but it sounds like they're only for use with supertec AL retainers, I'd rather run TI retainers... so I'm waiting to see if they will substitute.

 

The Supertec Al retainers require the 10 degree. They also have the 7 degree, that fits there Ti. retainers and stock retainers. Sort that seller out.

 

i use ferrea. But i think you have o use there retainer with them.

http://www.ferrea.com/general-...=6087

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by havok hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i use ferrea. But i think you have o use there retainer with them.

http://www.ferrea.com/general-...=6087</TD></TR></TABLE> And that helps the OP how?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And that helps the OP how?</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, It's honda tech... what do you expect?

Anyone else have any PERSONAL experience or KNOWLEDGEABLE suggestions?

 

Seeing as I do not know [freak], I would try K-Mart or Wal-Mart. Manley or Supertec suck. Try E-Bay.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And that helps the OP how?</TD></TR></TABLE>

OP did not state what retainer he is going to use.
Did you even click on the link.? 7 degree Locks. Aftermarket.

Thanks for your input.. I see how your tryin to help!.

 

Please if you have nothing informative to post and are just going to bicker back and forth, please leave the thread.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by havok hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OP did not state what retainer he is going to use.
Did you even click on the link.? 7 degree Locks. Aftermarket.

Thanks for your input.. I see how your tryin to help!.

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Supertec, but if you read the entire thread you would've saw where I asked for feedback on aluminum and titanium retainers.

Do you have feedback on that subject?

 

IMO Ti is going to last a lot longer then Al

Do they even make Al retainers ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO Ti is going to last a lot longer then Al

Do they even make Al retainers ?

</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, supertec makes them.